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370Zsteve 10-10-2010 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 758708)
This is true. But mainly I hate them because of all the douchebaggery they promote.

The only purpose these comparos serve anymore is to highlight the fact that the true "car guy" is (sadly) a dying breed. Happens on any forum with any car... far too many become brand fanbois these days.

Anyways, both are awesome cars and you can't go wrong with whichever you choose if you happen to be cross-shopping them. I know because I've owned both, and I'm not a brand-fanboi douchebag.

But your name is Mustang :stirthepot:

Red370 10-10-2010 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorDave (Post 759431)
Saw 2 GT500's today. TWO! Must be a Mustang car show in the area. Unheard of. Sweet, sweet growl to that engine.

I think the whine of the twin screw under the hood is what makes it supremely badass, you can hear them whining there way up and down the street, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Tsssssss (that is my text description of the sound, add rep like you should.)

Endgame 10-10-2010 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 759251)
yeah? i could have sworn I read somewhere that it was getting the 5.0... oh well, a supercharged 6.2? ridiculous.

That is what I read also..... I think you are correct.

And, good personal comparo of the two cars. I think you are spot on.

ProfessorDave 10-10-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 759469)
I think the whine of the twin screw under the hood is what makes it supremely badass, you can hear them whining there way up and down the street, EEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Tsssssss (that is my text description of the sound, add rep like you should.)

That is EXACTLY the sound! You have been repped, and should go into a career describing engine/exhaust sounds to the hearing impaired! :tiphat::bowrofl:

m4a1mustang 10-10-2010 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 370Zsteve (Post 759435)
In 10 years gasoline in the USA will be $16/gallon and we'll be driving Nissan Leafs. "Till then, enjoy your Z :tup:

This, exactly. Remember what happened following the horsepower wars of the 60s? The same thing is going to happen again and real soon. So we all need to quit hating and enjoy our high-horsepower cars while we still can!.

m4a1mustang 10-10-2010 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 759251)
yeah? i could have sworn I read somewhere that it was getting the 5.0... oh well, a supercharged 6.2? ridiculous.

You're probably right. Given how awesome the new 5.0L is there's no reason for them to go for the bigger engine. I just heard it getting thrown around a bit.

I'd imagine the future GT500 will get the 5.0 with beefier internals and would probably be rated around 600 hp from the factory.

m4a1mustang 10-10-2010 08:03 PM

BTW Red, I disagree with you about the interior. I know you have the base so it's different, but the Premium GTs are pretty sexy inside. Everything is on the same level of quality and feel as my Touring interior was. The only thing the GT lacks are the awesome knee pads... those things were so nice.

Oh, and I know you hate the LED fuel gauge on the Z, but I loved it. Compared to the GT it's awesome. I miss knowing exactly how many "dots" of fuel I had. :icon18:

Oh and I miss the Z's fuel economy, too. I could easily pull ~20 mpg average out of that thing with my regular mix of semi-aggressive city/highway driving. With the GT I can pull 16-17 on average. I could probably do a little better but it's hard to stay out of the loud pedal with this car. :icon17:

Red370 10-10-2010 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 759615)
You're probably right. Given how awesome the new 5.0L is there's no reason for them to go for the bigger engine. I just heard it getting thrown around a bit.

I'd imagine the future GT500 will get the 5.0 with beefier internals and would probably be rated around 600 hp from the factory.

If i'm not mistaken, the Boss is going to have the same beefed up goodies as the standard 5.0 (forged crankshaft, forged powdered rods), but it'll also have the addition of forged pistons, I see this same engine ending up in the GT500. Crazy man, i've been talking back and forth with a few Mustang tuners and they're saying that the 5.0 block w/o forged pistons will handle 700hp, i'll attribute that to the oil squirters keeping the pistons cooler. :tup:

Educ8r 10-10-2010 08:17 PM

So after having the 5.0 for about 2 weeks I must say it is definitely more fun to drive than the Z. Of course the Z looks better! Installed flowmasters and love the sound!

Oh yeah, my insurance is cheaper too!

Red370 10-10-2010 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 759619)
BTW Red, I disagree with you about the interior. I know you have the base so it's different, but the Premium GTs are pretty sexy inside. Everything is on the same level of quality and feel as my Touring interior was. The only thing the GT lacks are the awesome knee pads... those things were so nice.

Oh, and I know you hate the LED fuel gauge on the Z, but I loved it. Compared to the GT it's awesome. I miss knowing exactly how many "dots" of fuel I had. :icon18:

Oh and I miss the Z's fuel economy, too. I could easily pull ~20 mpg average out of that thing with my regular mix of semi-aggressive city/highway driving. With the GT I can pull 16-17 on average. I could probably do a little better but it's hard to stay out of the loud pedal with this car. :icon17:

True, I had a base Z as well, and base for base, the Z is better. Never got to experience the premium interior on the GT, I am but a lowly ground pounder and im not ballin like that lol.

I hated the LED gauges for the simple fact that with a full tank, i'd still be missing two dots, made it hard to judge how much fuel I really had in the tank.

As far as fuel economy goes, in the city, my GT gets around the same mileage as my Z did (17-18), i'll attribute your worse economy to those 3.73 gears:tup:

Endgame 10-10-2010 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Educ8r (Post 759627)
So after having the 5.0 for about 2 weeks I must say it is definitely more fun to drive than the Z. Of course the Z looks better! Installed flowmasters and love the sound!

Oh yeah, my insurance is cheaper too!

If you like tq yes...

Red370 10-10-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Educ8r (Post 759627)
So after having the 5.0 for about 2 weeks I must say it is definitely more fun to drive than the Z. Of course the Z looks better! Installed flowmasters and love the sound!

Oh yeah, my insurance is cheaper too!

holy crap, where did you come from? didnt even know we had another 5.0 guy on the forum here, crazy, but cool nonetheless. I bought the magnaflow x pipe w/ muffler delete and my car screams, children in China have nightmares when I cold start.

Red370 10-10-2010 08:22 PM

I will say that driving my Z was an overall more engaging, enjoyable experience daily driven, but man, the torque and roar of that 5.0 is truly life changing.

m4a1mustang 10-10-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 759629)
True, I had a base Z as well, and base for base, the Z is better. Never got to experience the premium interior on the GT, I am but a lowly ground pounder and im not ballin like that lol.

I hated the LED gauges for the simple fact that with a full tank, i'd still be missing two dots, made it hard to judge how much fuel I really had in the tank.

As far as fuel economy goes, in the city, my GT gets around the same mileage as my Z did (17-18), i'll attribute your worse economy to those 3.73 gears:tup:

I agree that the base Z > base Mustang on the interior. I think the fact that the Z had the leather wrapped center stack and a pretty badass steering wheel in both the base and touring models is what does it.

BTW, I know a lot of the base Mustang guys are replacing their steering wheels with the GT500 one... might be something to consider if you don't care for the base wheel. I think it goes for around $340?

Endgame 10-10-2010 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 759635)
I will say that driving my Z was an overall more engaging, enjoyable experience daily driven, but man, the torque and roar of that 5.0 is truly life changing.

that roar is 'like whoa'. i do not see enough 5.0s; only 4.6's....

m4a1mustang 10-10-2010 08:27 PM

Damn you guys for not having the Brembo cars!

The Brembo gets the stiffer springs, shocks/struts, and better tires. This thing is a BLAST in the twisties. Yes, the Z was more precise, but in terms of outright grip they feel the same and interestingly the Mustang has a much better balance to it... It doesn't have the understeer that the Z does in factory trim. The Brembos are killer, too. Braking feel is a lot better.

There are a few things I miss about the Z but the Mustang does not leave me wanting one bit as far as the driving experience goes. It's a BLAST.

m4a1mustang 10-10-2010 08:28 PM

Also, I never had the LED issues with my Z. All my dots were lit after a fill-up!

Red370 10-10-2010 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 759636)
I agree that the base Z > base Mustang on the interior. I think the fact that the Z had the leather wrapped center stack and a pretty badass steering wheel in both the base and touring models is what does it.

BTW, I know a lot of the base Mustang guys are replacing their steering wheels with the GT500 one... might be something to consider if you don't care for the base wheel. I think it goes for around $340?

I've never been one to care about the interior comforts, the steering wheel looks nice, but right now my priority is saving $700 for the JLT Intake (its carbon fiber, eeeek!) and Brenspeed tune. I had a spirited run the other day on the highway (up to the speed limit of course) with a Roush and I pulled a car on him, now w/ that intake/tune, next time he'll go home crying.

Educ8r 10-10-2010 08:34 PM

http://img.skitch.com/20101011-tsd4u...hkyqjedbfm.jpg
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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 759633)
holy crap, where did you come from? didnt even know we had another 5.0 guy on the forum here, crazy, but cool nonetheless. I bought the magnaflow x pipe w/ muffler delete and my car screams, children in China have nightmares when I cold start.


Red370 10-10-2010 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 759644)
Damn you guys for not having the Brembo cars!

The Brembo gets the stiffer springs, shocks/struts, and better tires. This thing is a BLAST in the twisties. Yes, the Z was more precise, but in terms of outright grip they feel the same and interestingly the Mustang has a much better balance to it... It doesn't have the understeer that the Z does in factory trim. The Brembos are killer, too. Braking feel is a lot better.

There are a few things I miss about the Z but the Mustang does not leave me wanting one bit as far as the driving experience goes. It's a BLAST.

Ol' moneybags magee over here, sheesh.

Red370 10-10-2010 08:36 PM

awesome rides Educ8r!! you must work in a district that pays well :icon17:

m4a1mustang 10-10-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 759633)
I bought the magnaflow x pipe w/ muffler delete and my car screams, children in China have nightmares when I cold start.

:icon18:

I have no doubt. I wanted to be a little more civil, but still aggressive, so my Ford Racing/Borla S-Type axle-back is being delivered tomorrow. :excited:

theDreamer 10-10-2010 09:03 PM

He works at UH, and I have yet to ever see his car.
Well, I did see it once, the day he posted he sold it for a Mustang at Baker Nissan.

Red370 10-10-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 759683)
:icon18:

I have no doubt. I wanted to be a little more civil, but still aggressive, so my Ford Racing/Borla S-Type axle-back is being delivered tomorrow. :excited:

wooo!! awesome man, the clamps are spot welded to the pipe, I used a chisel and hammer to bust it off, give that a shot, you could probably even use a flat tip instead of a chisel. I also used some PB Blast on the hangers to lube it up a bit and the stockers came off with ease.

Red370 10-10-2010 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 759683)
:icon18:

I have no doubt. I wanted to be a little more civil, but still aggressive, so my Ford Racing/Borla S-Type axle-back is being delivered tomorrow. :excited:

theres this guy in a blacked out Camaro around here running a loud ass exhaust, struttin around town like his shit dont stink, I had to come back with my response, hopefully i see his ass one of these days.

Endgame 10-10-2010 09:16 PM

own him!

Red370 10-10-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Endgame (Post 759705)
own him!

that good sir, is my goal, what i'd like to do is follow him like a creepy stalker person until he pulls into a parking lot and leaves his car unattended, then stick a post it note to his window with a date and time for the drag strip.

m4a1mustang 10-10-2010 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 759740)
that good sir, is my goal, what i'd like to do is follow him like a creepy stalker person until he pulls into a parking lot and leaves his car unattended, then stick a post it note to his window with a date and time for the drag strip.

Future post on Camaro 5:

"So, some Mustang creeper has been stalking me for a few weeks now trying to get me to race."


:bowrofl:

Red370 10-10-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 759746)
Future post on Camaro 5:

"So, some Mustang creeper has been stalking me for a few weeks now trying to get me to race."


:bowrofl:

:rofl2:

I know right? I'd like to get my hands on one of them GoPro cameras, strap it to the side facing his car on the strip and watch my car pull and pull down the whole length with the final frame getting a shot of my middle finger, then post it on Camaro5.

m4a1mustang 10-10-2010 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 759746)
Future post on Camaro 5:

"So, some Mustang creeper with great calves has been stalking me for a few weeks now trying to get me to race."


:bowrofl:


Fixed. :icon17:

Zsteve 10-10-2010 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert (Post 758688)
The Z does 0-60 in around 4.8 seconds, the GT in around 4.3. The Z does the 1/4 mile in around 13.3@107, and the GT 12.8@112.
These are about the best times I could find for each car.

Ive seen 4.7 for the Z in a race between it the 2010 stang and the gen

Red370 10-10-2010 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 759755)
Fixed. :icon17:

Red370 :owned:

96bigbody 10-10-2010 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Red370 (Post 759750)
:rofl2:

I know right? I'd like to get my hands on one of them GoPro cameras, strap it to the side facing his car on the strip and watch my car pull and pull down the whole length with the final frame getting a shot of my middle finger, then post it on Camaro5.

What makes you think you would pull on this car?

m4a1mustang 10-10-2010 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 96bigbody (Post 759782)
What makes you think you would pull on this car?

:ohsnap1:

Mag350Z 10-10-2010 10:20 PM

the Automobile article, although not giving specific numbers, said the GT was faster by a second both to 60 and in the 1/4 mile

Red370 10-10-2010 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 96bigbody (Post 759782)
What makes you think you would pull on this car?

Not think, know. Theres a difference. Driver mod. Faster Car. Raging Boner. Victory is obvious. Bring that hog nose over here while you're at it, shitting on two cars at once would make my month.

96bigbody 10-10-2010 11:48 PM

Ok..Why you gotta bring up my ride.lol Just don't want you getting a big head. I really don't want to hurt your feelings but you wouldn't even have a chance versus my impala.

Z eliminator 10-11-2010 05:16 AM

I have no problems with them at the drag strip. A few N/A bolt ons and I run 12.8009 and its a 7 AT.

370Zsteve 10-11-2010 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 96bigbody (Post 759865)
Ok..Why you gotta bring up my ride.lol Just don't want you getting a big head. I really don't want to hurt your feelings but you wouldn't even have a chance versus my impala.

:gtfo2:

m4a1mustang 10-11-2010 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Z eliminator (Post 759950)
I have no problems with them at the drag strip. A few N/A bolt ons and I run 12.8009 and its a 7 AT.

A few bolt ons and they run 11s? So?


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