Skip a gear?

blue660r01

I skip 5th a lot

shadoquad

I skip it often on the way down. If I'm cruising on the highway and traffic slows enough, I might pop 'er into 4th from 6th and gun it to pass.

blue660r01

Oh I always skip downshifting. I was talking bout upshifting

Jeffblue

.... wait... so i'm supposed to shift OUT of first? WTF

SkyZ

better than me, didnt know u had to shift into first in the first place. no wonder the car didnt really move anywhere.

Dembflyr

I should email this thread to those knuckleheads.

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Dembflyr

My friend went to get my car and bring it to the other dealer today. The service manager told him that after he and I had talked yesterday he took another Z that was on the lot for a drive and said that he now feels a big difference in the way the two cars shift. He started a file to either get the transmission swapped or the syncros replaced.
My friend was unable to get in touch with me to ask if I wanted to leave the car at the first dealer so he just took the car to the other one for me.
I am glad that the service manager went a little further to investigate but I do not feel comfortable with them doing the work.
When my friend was leaving the manager said "I still say that you shouldn't skip gears with this car".
Well see what the other dealer says. I have no problem adjusting my driving style if this is a problem to these cars.

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wishihadnav

yeah i do it all the time...1st to 6th..haha.

rmorrow

I do not skip gears shifting up...just me...nothing is wrong with skipping on upshifts as long as you do not bog the car excessively. I skip quite often on downshifts, and I usually shift into neutral from second or third gear when slowing to a stop at traffic signals/stop signs...I just coast in at neutral to a stop, then shift into first when I start moving again. In heavy traffic (all the time in Houston) it is easier to coast to a stop in neutral rather than wear your leg out downshifting.

memorylasts

i go 1-2-4-6 if i am just cruising, if i am on the highwy i downshift to 4th if needed, and skip 5th, and if for some reason im doing a full row, then i will use every gear.

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nurseryboy

With the kind of roads / lights / traffic around here, I often go from 1st - 3rd - 6th. As long as the RPM's are where they need to be, it's perfectly fine for the transmission. I'm glad they're going to fix it for you. Something is definitely wrong (if you haven't figured that out from all the posts).

Itsalex687

I do the same exact pattern have you had any problems with your z?

Dembflyr

Well the second dealer is saying that there is nothing wrong with my car. Now the first dealer is going back on their word and will not repair the transmission because the service manager believes that I am abusing the transmission.
He said "If I put another transmission in this car and you keep shifting the way you do, you'll be back here in another 6000 miles."
Who started this wives tale at Nissan that you cannot skip a gear?
Got a call into NNA and a third dealer in town.
As of yet there has been no file started on my car.

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Dembflyr

Third dealer agrees with me that there is a problem and that skipping a gear probably didn't cause it. It is now grinding 5th to 6th and is difficult to get into 3rd as well.
New transmission has been ordered and will be installed, hopefully, by Friday.

It really sucks that I had to go through all of this trouble just to get a warranty issue fixed. Out of four Nissan dealers that I have dealt with I have only gotten good customer service from the last one. The service manager has kept me in the loop the entire time and they have treated me with respect. Unlike the last three. 25% Satisfaction with Nissan dealers so far.

I also have to say that I am so thankful for good friends. I have been out of town during this whole ordeal and a few friends have been awesome. They have been shuttling my car from dealer to dealer for me. I think I owe them a dinner.

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Josh@STILLEN

Glad you found a dealer willing to look at what it is for the merits, and also glad you don't have to deal with your initial thought of "I thought it was normal".

I have an '04 G35 Coupe 6MT and have gone through three transmissions due to synchro issues, 5-6 was definitely one, another can be second, but it's very common, and documented all over the different boards.

There is a synchro problem, and it either hits you or it doesnt, and I'm happy to say the 4th transmission in my G has been trouble free for over 40k miles, where the others were less than 20k..

Nissan's fix is to throw a new transmission at it instead of fixing the actual issue, I'll refer to their judgement on cost and effectiveness of that program, but I can guarantee you there are a LOT of transmissions sitting around with bad synchros.

Did wait the first one out, and I can guarantee you it would definitely not get better.. on my first go around after being turned away from a dealer I finally got the point where even a 4 second shift to 5th with the clutch depressed woudn't get it into gear without grinding.. and at that point the service manager who I had to take with me recognized the problem.

Unfortunate, but simulating the problem with a service advisor in the car is usually the fix.. and yes they won't be happy at you attempting to show them shifts at 130mph.. typically does it on the downshift at high revs too.. regardless of ultimate speed.. FYI