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Red370 · 07-21-2010, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

The V10?

I think you're mistaking the S6 for the old S4 with the 2.7TT V6... can't really squeeze that much more out of a relatively high-strung V10 without making it ungodly loud.

no sir, over on audiworld I believe someone bolted on an additional 40whp with NA mods. I go there from time to time. It isnt too far fetched, look how much power our cars make with bolt ons/tune. I'd say our engine is almost maxed out from the factory, so to extract the power we do, its pretty damn impressive.

WarmAndSCSI · 07-21-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Red370

no sir, over on audiworld I believe someone bolted on an additional 40whp with NA mods. I go there from time to time. It isnt too far fetched, look how much power our cars make with bolt ons/tune. I'd say our engine is almost maxed out from the factory, so to extract the power we do, its pretty damn impressive.

We also make the same with N/A mods... but our 40 WHP means more than on a car that weights half a ton more.

I understand what you're saying, it just would take a LOT more power to go against a 370Z mod-for-mod.

Mt Tam I am · 07-21-2010, 11:21 AM

I just read article @ Audi S6 Review – Edmunds.com .

Unless it was modified, Ouch is right. Sorry.

kenchan · 07-21-2010, 11:17 AM

TongMan · 07-21-2010, 11:20 AM

don't worry...there are always bigger fish.

Zsteve · 07-21-2010, 11:20 AM

it always seems to go back to the car cost more than ours when we get beat but when we beat a honda we dont mention that ours cost more. who cares about price that has nothing to do with it as the difference in price isnt all in the engine alone. it has more TQ so it gets going faster and it beat the Z. TQ is where the Z lacks and thats why I want the SC, to help with that area.

GZ3 · 07-21-2010, 11:22 AM

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it always seems to go back to the car cost more than ours when we get beat but when we beat a honda we dont mention that ours cost more. who cares about price that has nothing to do with it as the difference in price isnt all in the engine alone. it has more TQ so it gets going faster and it beat the Z. TQ is where the Z lacks and thats why I want the SC, to help with that area.

if your going FI and focusing on TQ, a turbo will do allot better than a supercharger...why not go that route?

Zsteve · 07-21-2010, 11:24 AM

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if your going FI and focusing on TQ, a turbo will do allot better than a supercharger...why not go that route?

too much money and Im hoping the SC will be less maint than the turbos.

Red370 · 07-21-2010, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

too much money and Im hoping the SC will be less maint than the turbos.

what he said.

GZ3 · 07-21-2010, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

too much money and Im hoping the SC will be less maint than the turbos.

true, true,.... maint is a biaatch... thats also why am considering a SC

WarmAndSCSI · 07-21-2010, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

too much money and Im hoping the SC will be less maint than the turbos.

If we're talking about a Vortech blower, you'll be in for an unpleasant surprise long-term.

They're not all they're cracked up to be, but it'll be plenty reliable below 10 PSI. It's at 20+ PSI that they start to get iffy. I would know, unfortunately

Zsteve · 07-21-2010, 11:46 AM

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If we're talking about a Vortech blower, you'll be in for an unpleasant surprise long-term.

They're not all they're cracked up to be, but it'll be plenty reliable below 10 PSI. It's at 20+ PSI that they start to get iffy. I would know, unfortunately

Im just looking at GTM right now with no more than 8 psi and hope that will get me over the hump I want.

WarmAndSCSI · 07-21-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

it always seems to go back to the car cost more than ours when we get beat but when we beat a honda we dont mention that ours cost more. who cares about price that has nothing to do with it as the difference in price isnt all in the engine alone. it has more TQ so it gets going faster and it beat the Z. TQ is where the Z lacks and thats why I want the SC, to help with that area.

Torque doesn't matter unless you're racing in top gear starting at 3500 rpm

Our engine has an awesome powerband where it actually matters (5500 to 7500 rpm), and I'm sure theirs does as well.

I'm not sure why people would be so caught up about low-end torque on a Z car. They've always been high-strung and gutless down low, with the exception of the 300ZX TT and maybe the 350Z.

Zsteve · 07-21-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by WarmAndSCSI

Torque doesn't matter unless you're racing in top gear starting at 3500 rpm

Our engine has an awesome powerband where it actually matters (5500 to 7500 rpm), and I'm sure theirs does as well.

I'm not sure why people would be so caught up about low-end torque on a Z car. They've always been high-strung and gutless down low, with the exception of the 300ZX TT and maybe the 350Z.

which is why it needs tq there and why low end tq cars will get the jump on us.

WarmAndSCSI · 07-21-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zsteve

which is why it needs tq there and why low end tq cars will get the jump on us.

Again, only if you roll race from 3500 rpm.

As far as acceleration is concerned, torque doesn't mean anything - all that matters is effective horsepower. If you're already within your powerband, you're set.

BTW, a centrifugal supercharger doesn't add much if any low-end torque. It'll probably start giving you extra power starting at 4000 rpm or so, with gains climbing from that point. I think that's accurate based upon the Stillen and GTM supercharger dyno sheets I've seen. Centrifugal superchargers are all about making more top end torque/horsepower. Imagine your torque curve being absolutely flat from 3500 or 4000 to redline - that's what this type of supercharger will get you.

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