This is why the z is a hard sell!

Jeffblue · 07-19-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

yeah, just because one pays under invoice doesn't mean they are stealing from the dealer. Your average car buyer negotiates a car deal every few years, whereas the car people do this 10-20 times a day. No one is going to steel from the dealer, they make it back somehow. This is truth 100% of the time, no matter how much they tell you about "how you're robbing them blind" as you sign the paperwork.

word, sometimes they even call you and tell you that you didn't make your $1000 down payment. Or sometimes they mug you in the parking lot.

m4a1mustang · 07-19-2010, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by frost

People post what they pay here all the time, and it's obvious that one should not even pay invoice for this car, because most are paying $500 under.

Especially after the "new" wore off. I think all of us early adopters were getting good deals at invoice to 500 under. Now on leftover stock you can get like $3k under invoice.

Kirkster · 07-19-2010, 11:59 AM

I payed less than invoice on my loaded Roadster... Still have yet to see another one on the road but the stealerships seem to have a boatload.

Now if it only came with those Miata doors.

m4a1mustang · 07-19-2010, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kirkster

I payed less than invoice on my loaded Roadster... Still have yet to see another one on the road but the stealerships seem to have a boatload.

Now if it only came with those Miata doors.

Miata doors are like a $50,000 option.

shadoquad · 07-19-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Miata doors are like a $50,000 option.

worth every penny

frost · 07-19-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Miata doors are like a $50,000 option.

How much is your life worth?

frost · 07-19-2010, 12:24 PM

When I bought my trans am late on a friday, they called me up Monday and said "we need another $2k on the downpayment." I told them no. They said, well, then we will have to modify the contract to raise the interest rate. I again told them no. They said, well, you have to do one of those, or you will have to give the car back. I said "okay, I'm on my way." They called me up while driving over there, they somehow made the deal work. I know there are reputable dealers out there somewhere, but people hate car dealers for a reason.

shadoquad · 07-19-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by frost

When I bought my trans am late on a friday, they called me up Monday and said "we need another $2k on the downpayment." I told them no. They said, well, then we will have to modify the contract to raise the interest rate. I again told them no. They said, well, you have to do one of those, or you will have to give the car back. I said "okay, I'm on my way." They called me up while driving over there, they somehow made the deal work. I know there are reputable dealers out there somewhere, but people hate car dealers for a reason.

And people who are only marginally interested in cars and finances have it the worst. They're not going to be bothered to learn "the language of the deal". They might make the classic mistakes of buying based solely on monthly payment, allowing the dealer to place them in a car, or being afraid to walk away if the numbers don't suit.

Hell, part of my routine is that I never accept the deal on the first day, even if I like the numbers. I always leave the dealership for a few days to sleep on and digest all that has occurred. Salesmen, especially sales managers, hate me for this.

PapoZalsa · 07-19-2010, 05:12 PM

Most of the 370Z left over are the ones without Sport Package which not too many people are interested!

BTW, that price is just ridiculous!!

Jordo! · 07-19-2010, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

2009 Nissan 370Z - $36,455

Please look at this joke of a ad for a Z sale. This is a new Z from 2009 that hasn't sold and it has NO TOURING PACKAGE, NO SPORTS PACKAGE! Its probably a demonstrator for all we know and he's asking over $36,000. Lmfao! What a joke. This car retailed at 31,900 in 2009!!
When I do searches, I see ridiculous adds like this all day long. Its ludacris.
We are 4 months away from the 2011 models. 2009 produced only 10,000 units of the 370z, yet, and there are still hundreds of 09 models on the market. And all being sold like they are 2010 models or even higher... I don't believe that there's no market for this car. I believe Nissan dealers bought into the rave reviews and are just plain old trying to get over so it won't sell on the prices they attempt to get them for. What's your take on this ad?

Laugh in his face and walk out.

I had a dealer try and tell me a 2009 sport w touring with 5K on it and visibile damage to the front chin spoiler was a "new" car simply because it hadn't been titled yet

He wanted 40K for it -- the dealer's wife was driving it around, so maybe they weren't too keen to part with it. She can continue to drive it for all I care.

NeedforZ · 07-19-2010, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I had a dealer try and tell me a 2009 sport w touring with 5K on it and visibile damage to the front chin spoiler was a "new" car simply because it hadn't been titled yet

I was out to buy a new Jeep one time and a dealer tried the same tactic. This Wrangler was demo model and just short of 10k miles. The idiot salesman was trying to convince me it was still brand new because it had never been titled. I pissed him off when I asked if it would still be brand new with 50k miles or even 100k miles. I got up and never came back after that BS.

KillerBee370 · 07-19-2010, 06:45 PM

It's worth every penny IMO. Not saying that's what somebody should pay..

Mr. Mcoupe · 07-19-2010, 06:57 PM

Wait- so you all are not originally 350z owners that upgraded to the 370z?

KillerBee370 · 07-19-2010, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mcoupe

Wait- so you all are not originally 350z owners that upgraded to the 370z?

Hell no! I drove something way faster before

KillerBee370 · 07-19-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Mcoupe

Wait- so you all are not originally 350z owners that upgraded to the 370z?

Hell no! I drove something way faster before

07-19-2010, 11:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
Kirkster A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Peoples Republic of MD Posts: 1,792 Drives: Roadster of DOOM Rep Power: 21	I payed less than invoice on my loaded Roadster... Still have yet to see another one on the road but the stealerships seem to have a boatload. Now if it only came with those Miata doors. __________________ Powertrain Warranty voided on 5/14/2011 Mod List:GTM Supercharger,SmartTop module, Oil Cooler, GT-R Start button, Nismo Exhaust, BC Racing ER Coilovers, Backup Camara For eastwest:

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PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4501	Most of the 370Z left over are the ones without Sport Package which not too many people are interested! BTW, that price is just ridiculous!! __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs Last edited by PapoZalsa; 07-19-2010 at 06:12 PM.

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07-19-2010, 12:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
frost Retired admin Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Winterfell Posts: 106,613 Drives: Your Wife Crazy Rep Power: 0	When I bought my trans am late on a friday, they called me up Monday and said "we need another $2k on the downpayment." I told them no. They said, well, then we will have to modify the contract to raise the interest rate. I again told them no. They said, well, you have to do one of those, or you will have to give the car back. I said "okay, I'm on my way." They called me up while driving over there, they somehow made the deal work. I know there are reputable dealers out there somewhere, but people hate car dealers for a reason.

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