overheated 370/no oil part 2

Sibze · 07-01-2010, 11:19 PM

I think as long as we can keep on topic - which is sometimes hard lol. He is asking legit questions!

Trips · 07-01-2010, 11:36 PM

DakillaZ · 07-01-2010, 11:53 PM

i dont understand why some of you are angry at me when its me that should be the pissed offf one...now my dealership has a very bad repp for lying and beating around the bush nd could be just b.sn the whole no oil in engine story so they can blame it on me ...i will find out 2morrow hopefully nd keep you guys informed ...once again im just letting ppl in onn my experince with this car dont take it to the heart anybodyy...im just as confused as all everyone else.. so please bare with me and hopefull get to the bottom of this.

DakillaZ · 07-01-2010, 11:59 PM

You have papers to prove the oil changes, that doesn't mean anything. It'll prove that you did your oil changes on time. But if their tech F*cks up, it won't be written on that invoice. So, let me get this right, the 3rd party oil change place f*cks up on their end. Nissan USA goes out of their way and give you a brand new engine. You still want to sue Nissan? wow, congratulations . You're my NEW hero

yess i dont want a defected car who knows what else can happen down the road...i work hard for my money. not gunna spend it on a new engine every 18000 miles

370Zsteve · 07-02-2010, 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DakillaZ

i dont understand why some of you are angry at me when its me that should be the pissed offf one...now my dealership has a very bad repp for lying and beating around the bush nd could be just b.sn the whole no oil in engine story so they can blame it on me ...i will find out 2morrow hopefully nd keep you guys informed ...once again im just letting ppl in onn my experince with this car dont take it to the heart anybodyy...im just as confused as all everyone else.. so please bare with me and hopefull get to the bottom of this.

We are treading awfully close to libel now. Good to see the thread is progressing well

370Zsteve · 07-02-2010, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Triple's

rofl, even though it doesn't show up, I had to give AK +1 rep

Cmike2780 · 07-01-2010, 11:56 PM

Wow

... and I thought my RX-8 had oil consumption issues. I had to add about 1/2 a quart in between oil changes and I thought that was a lot. I would notice the tailpipe turning pitch black over time.

Over 5 quarts without a trace of oil around the engine bay, smoke or on the ground means there was very little to begin with. Period!

Some of these "Jiffy Lube" type places don't exactly have the brightest "mechanics" around. OP, why you would trust your $40K sports car with a kid who makes $5 an hour is beyond me. Honestly, its easy enough to do yourself if you wanted to save money. AK has a great DIY on this forum if you want to learn.

I understand why you wouldn't check the dipstick, but that doesn't mean its Nissan's fault because the car didn't warn you. It's a machine, not a babysitter. You can go after the car wash place

, but you will likely have a hard time finding any credible evidence to support your case.

My dad always told me to check under the hood between fill-ups. This is the very reason why you should. It sucks that this happened to you, but at least you got a good lesson from it. Good luck. Your gonna need it.

wishihadnav · 07-02-2010, 12:07 AM

I'm not angry at u man..haha..5qts is a lot of missing oil..hope u get this sorted out.

rha600 · 07-02-2010, 05:58 AM

I think the oil problem (or lack of oil) has been covered. Other than the ideas other's have posted several times I am completely out of ideas. Someone did mention that maybe this has been an on going issue and it's always been slowly burning oil to the point that you're down 2 or 3 qts every oil change and it's just not noticed. Usually they just drain the oil into a big container and don't look at how much came out. Over time (18,000 miles) the low amount of oil finally caused the failure.

As for the oil light, like others showed, that light does NOT show when you're low on oil. Some cars do (like BMW) but 95% of cars it only shows when the oil pressure is low which depending on how low you are may or may not activate the light. Now going by what the dealer is saying, I would think that the light would have showed up on your car during something like a turn taken at a decent speed where the oil flows away from the pickup. ???

it's great that you change the oil every 4000 miles. I change mine every 5000 but I still check the dipstick in between. If you baby the car like you say you do, why were you not checking the oil at the very least everytime you got gas?

Jeffblue · 07-02-2010, 06:44 AM

i think the OP has inadvertently helped us. Anyone who has read this thread, and wasn't already that particular about checking their oil, has probably checked their oil. In his convoluted way of saying so, he has tried to say that his is just trying to help so this doesn't happen to anyone else. All i know, is that reading mystery stories like this will certainly make me check my oil. hearing stories like 'OMG MY ENGINE DIED! BECAUSE I HAD NO OIL' make you a lot more motivated to check your oil than ' OMG I CHECKED MY OIL AND IT WAS LOW SO I ADDED A QUART AND THEN IT WAS OK!'

LunaZ · 07-02-2010, 07:35 AM

What I've learned from this thread:
You can post a legitimate question about a topic that might have been discussed on this forum before and get the facepalm or a "use the search" or an RTFM as your response.
Make fantastic claims about blowing up your engine while writing like a teenager on MySpace, and people will write paragraphs in response.
Well done, DaZkilla.

370Zsteve · 07-02-2010, 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LunaZ

What I've learned from this thread:
You can post a legitimate question about a topic that might have been discussed on this forum before and get the facepalm or a "use the search" or an RTFM as your response.
Make fantastic claims about blowing up your engine while writing like a teenager on MySpace, and people will write paragraphs in response.
Well done, DaZkilla.

This post is epic

+1 rep

spearfish25 · 07-02-2010, 08:28 AM

The bottom line is this:

No one here will be able to tell you what happened.

You should check your oil level with the dipstick regularly, but realize that sudden, massive leaks obviously won't be caught with a weekly dipstick check.

You have an uphill battle with Nissan if you want them to replace your motor, given that you have no proof of who changed the oil or how the leak/burn occurred.

We can now close the second thread on this issue.

nogoodname · 07-02-2010, 09:01 AM

how could the engine be missing all the oil...lol... did they even fill it up with oil?...or it leaked all out.

zero · 07-02-2010, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nogoodname

how could the engine be missing all the oil...lol... did they even fill it up with oil?...or it leaked all out.

BP would like to know too.

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Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 29	Wow ... and I thought my RX-8 had oil consumption issues. I had to add about 1/2 a quart in between oil changes and I thought that was a lot. I would notice the tailpipe turning pitch black over time. Over 5 quarts without a trace of oil around the engine bay, smoke or on the ground means there was very little to begin with. Period! Some of these "Jiffy Lube" type places don't exactly have the brightest "mechanics" around. OP, why you would trust your $40K sports car with a kid who makes $5 an hour is beyond me. Honestly, its easy enough to do yourself if you wanted to save money. AK has a great DIY on this forum if you want to learn. I understand why you wouldn't check the dipstick, but that doesn't mean its Nissan's fault because the car didn't warn you. It's a machine, not a babysitter. You can go after the car wash place , but you will likely have a hard time finding any credible evidence to support your case. My dad always told me to check under the hood between fill-ups. This is the very reason why you should. It sucks that this happened to you, but at least you got a good lesson from it. Good luck. Your gonna need it. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

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spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1857	The bottom line is this: No one here will be able to tell you what happened. You should check your oil level with the dipstick regularly, but realize that sudden, massive leaks obviously won't be caught with a weekly dipstick check. You have an uphill battle with Nissan if you want them to replace your motor, given that you have no proof of who changed the oil or how the leak/burn occurred. We can now close the second thread on this issue. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

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07-01-2010, 11:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sibze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 16,202 Drives: In your way Rep Power: 64	I think as long as we can keep on topic - which is sometimes hard lol. He is asking legit questions!

07-01-2010, 11:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
DakillaZ Banned Join Date: May 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 47 Drives: 370z blue/gray Rep Power: 0	i dont understand why some of you are angry at me when its me that should be the pissed offf one...now my dealership has a very bad repp for lying and beating around the bush nd could be just b.sn the whole no oil in engine story so they can blame it on me ...i will find out 2morrow hopefully nd keep you guys informed ...once again im just letting ppl in onn my experince with this car dont take it to the heart anybodyy...im just as confused as all everyone else.. so please bare with me and hopefull get to the bottom of this.

07-01-2010, 11:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
DakillaZ Banned Join Date: May 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 47 Drives: 370z blue/gray Rep Power: 0	You have papers to prove the oil changes, that doesn't mean anything. It'll prove that you did your oil changes on time. But if their tech Fcks up, it won't be written on that invoice. So, let me get this right, the 3rd party oil change place fcks up on their end. Nissan USA goes out of their way and give you a brand new engine. You still want to sue Nissan? wow, congratulations . You're my NEW hero yess i dont want a defected car who knows what else can happen down the road...i work hard for my money. not gunna spend it on a new engine every 18000 miles

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wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 184	I'm not angry at u man..haha..5qts is a lot of missing oil..hope u get this sorted out.

07-02-2010, 05:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
rha600 Base Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: FL Posts: 84 Drives: 05 Honda, 08 SRT8 Rep Power: 15	I think the oil problem (or lack of oil) has been covered. Other than the ideas other's have posted several times I am completely out of ideas. Someone did mention that maybe this has been an on going issue and it's always been slowly burning oil to the point that you're down 2 or 3 qts every oil change and it's just not noticed. Usually they just drain the oil into a big container and don't look at how much came out. Over time (18,000 miles) the low amount of oil finally caused the failure. As for the oil light, like others showed, that light does NOT show when you're low on oil. Some cars do (like BMW) but 95% of cars it only shows when the oil pressure is low which depending on how low you are may or may not activate the light. Now going by what the dealer is saying, I would think that the light would have showed up on your car during something like a turn taken at a decent speed where the oil flows away from the pickup. ??? it's great that you change the oil every 4000 miles. I change mine every 5000 but I still check the dipstick in between. If you baby the car like you say you do, why were you not checking the oil at the very least everytime you got gas?

07-02-2010, 06:44 AM	#10 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 37 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 38	i think the OP has inadvertently helped us. Anyone who has read this thread, and wasn't already that particular about checking their oil, has probably checked their oil. In his convoluted way of saying so, he has tried to say that his is just trying to help so this doesn't happen to anyone else. All i know, is that reading mystery stories like this will certainly make me check my oil. hearing stories like 'OMG MY ENGINE DIED! BECAUSE I HAD NO OIL' make you a lot more motivated to check your oil than ' OMG I CHECKED MY OIL AND IT WAS LOW SO I ADDED A QUART AND THEN IT WAS OK!'

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nogoodname Lifetime Premium Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Montreal Posts: 22,357 Drives: E46 M3 Rep Power: 1765	how could the engine be missing all the oil...lol... did they even fill it up with oil?...or it leaked all out.

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