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Originally Posted by DakillaZ sorry im not the brightest of the bunch lol thanks for the advice, nissan is looking into the engine hopefully they will just relaize its mechanical

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Old 07-01-2010, 09:01 PM   #1 (permalink)
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sorry im not the brightest of the bunch lol thanks for the advice, nissan is looking into the engine hopefully they will just relaize its mechanical failure nd i wont need a lawyer
It's just really hard to read your posts, it's nothing personal. It's just the Internet.

But on the real... some people have ruled out oil consumption because he saw no oil smoke, but that argument isn't completely sound. When you're burning oil in combustion at a steady rate, it usually leaves no noticeable blue smoke out the exhaust - it burns just like gasoline would, but slightly dirtier. You start to notice blue smoke in noticeable amounts when you are pulling unburnt or excessive amounts of oil through the engine. This causes the oil to burn off in the exhaust and shows distinctly blue smoke and can happen multiple ways, but I won't elaborate on the details.

Fact is, if you're burning 2-4 quarts of oil every oil change interval, you may or may not notice the oil smoke. It may only happen under high load, where you're not really watching your rear view to notice any oil smoke. It may happen constantly, but in such a minute amount, most the oil is completely burnt off in the catalytic converters before it reaches the exhaust tips where you see it exit.

If they find no fault on your behalf, then you're still covered if your new engine leaked or consumed that much oil into a 4000-mile oil change cycle. Your warranty does not require you to strictly monitor your oil levels - at least I don't think it does. Nobody can be expected to do that with a brand new car. A lot of us do, but that's our prerogative. It's not something you have to do to keep your warranty.
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Your warranty does not require you to strictly monitor your oil levels - at least I don't think it does. Nobody can be expected to do that with a brand new car. A lot of us do, but that's our prerogative. It's not something you have to do to keep your warranty.
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even with the engine knocking there is still no check engine light which i cant still understand.. nd if the oil was low what happend to the check oil light thats BIG cpu failure. i knw that most of you are gunna blame me for not cheaking the dip stick but my car was running great before all this happend it didnt even cross my mind :/
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If Nissan wasn't changing the oil and they have already said it was not a Nissan problem I am afraid what WarmAndSCSI is saying is true (the part about seeing a Lawyer). However, I don't think your going to have a leg to stand on. The only way you may get some of this covered is to go after the place that was changing the oil....

Good luck and let us know what ends up happening!
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Yesterday I began an oil consumption test. at 1300 miles I had added 2 qts of oil. They marked dipstick after topping off. Wish me luck.
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Yesterday I began an oil consumption test. at 1300 miles I had added 2 qts of oil. They marked dipstick after topping off. Wish me luck.
2qts burned off?..seems excessive.
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Lack of simple maintenance on your part, got you were you are. Had you been more careful in checking your basic fluids and not relying on an Idiot light, You could have probably saved your motor, Oil doesn't disappear from one day to the next. I have no sympathy. You're learning an expensive lesson for not paying attention to your Car.
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Note that there is middle ground between the oil change place not putting any oil in and putting the correct amount of oil in. They could have put in a few quarts too little. It's possible that this could have caused subtle damage that caused what oil was left to burn off over the course of 3 months.

Your complaint is likely with the oil change place and not with Nissan or your dealership.

Added: Triple's is right. My guess is that your last oil change was screwed up, but you share a large part of the responsibility for not checking your oil
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No excuse for not checking the oil in your vehicle regularly. Good luck.
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this is 2010 oil lights have been around forever automatically popp up wen the car has 2 to 3 qts left...you guys sound like you work at nissan lool
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this is 2010 oil lights have been around forever automatically popp up wen the car has 2 to 3 qts left...you guys sound like you work at nissan lool
Yes, and the world is full of sad stories of people who relied on them. The sending units can fail. I'm not sure whether they can be damaged by a botched oil change.

Assuming the sensor or light failed and the failure of the oil pressure sensor or light was Nissan's fault, are they responsible for your engine running out of oil if losing that oil was the result of negligence by some third party?
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Yes, and the world is full of sad stories of people who relied on them. The sending units can fail. I'm not sure whether they can be damaged by a botched oil change.

Assuming the sensor or light failed and the failure of the oil pressure sensor or light was Nissan's fault, are they responsible for your engine running out of oil if losing that oil was the result of negligence by some third party?
i changed my oil every 4000 miles did everything in the book its not my fault the oil light didnt come upp i have pappers to prove my oilchanges. it iss indeed nissans fault not mine ...but even when they give me a new engine im goin to get a lemon lawyer ...who knws what other defects this car hass
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this is 2010 oil lights have been around forever automatically popp up wen the car has 2 to 3 qts left...you guys sound like you work at nissan lool
This car does not have an idiot light that comes on when the oil is down to 2-3 quarts.

From the 370Z Owners manual:

" The engine oil pressure warning light is not designed to indicate a low oil level. Use the dipstick to check the oil level. (See
“ENGINE OIL” in the “8. Maintenance and do-it yourself”
section.) "
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From the 370Z Owners manual:

" The engine oil pressure warning light is not designed to indicate a low oil level. Use the dipstick to check the oil level. (See
“ENGINE OIL” in the “8. Maintenance and do-it yourself”
section.) "
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I agree Zaggeron that’s what I am thinking too. It SHOULDN'T be a Nissan problem because really what could have gone wrong for the engine to eat that much oil???

I do not understand though, why we need to slam members for not looking into their oil... When I take my car to a professional (I cannot comment on where he took is car as I don't know the place) I would hope its done right. I know our car is a big investment and it is something I personally would want to look at every time I get my oil changed however, some people do not have any mechanical knowledge and need to rely on these "Professionals" that they do things right. If the OP was a 90 year old grandmother would you feel the same way? “You should have checked your oil level.”

It’s a very bad situation and unfortunately one that may end up costing the OP some money…
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