Hope Nissan is watching this...

cptspeed · 06-29-2010, 09:59 PM

I'll thank the unions for my 40 hr work weeks. overtime for anything over 40. extensive training programs. paid vacations. safety programs etc.. and lets not forget, the car manufacturers signed a collective bargaining agreement with the unions. The unions are not the problem here. People agreeing to work for peanuts in other factories make it appear that way.

Lug · 06-30-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by cptspeed

I'll thank the unions for my 40 hr work weeks. overtime for anything over 40. extensive training programs. paid vacations. safety programs etc.. and lets not forget, the car manufacturers signed a collective bargaining agreement with the unions. The unions are not the problem here. People agreeing to work for peanuts in other factories make it appear that way.

That all works as long as everyone is bound by the same rules. What craps the system is when overseas competition came in and could spend less on labor and more on product development and production per unit. The outcome is inevitable.

antennahead · 06-30-2010, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

That all works as long as everyone is bound by the same rules. What craps the system is when overseas competition came in and could spend less on labor and more on product development and production per unit. The outcome is inevitable.

You don't want a guy with a 10th grade education driving a forklift making $85,000 a year? What's wrong with you

cptspeed · 06-30-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by antennahead

You don't want a guy with a 10th grade education driving a forklift making $85,000 a year? What's wrong with you

You have a valid point. The automotive unions are an example of union principles gone bad.
If only I could have made that much when I drove a forklift back in 95

Jeffblue · 06-30-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lug

That all works as long as everyone is bound by the same rules. What craps the system is when overseas competition came in and could spend less on labor and more on product development and production per unit. The outcome is inevitable.

yea damn overseas competition. i would never buy a car made overseas!

but really, its true. if other companies are not bound by the same rules because they are under governmental regulations, its hard to compete. However, ultimately, a car made by higher paid, more educated people should be more well made. unfortunately, that isn't necessarily true.

Lug · 06-30-2010, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeffblue

yea damn overseas competition. i would never buy a car made overseas!

but really, its true. if other companies are not bound by the same rules because they are under governmental regulations, its hard to compete. However, ultimately, a car made by higher paid, more educated people should be more well made. unfortunately, that isn't necessarily true.

We got the "higher paid", but missed the "more educated" part.

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cptspeed Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: tampa Posts: 799 Drives: 09 370z Rep Power: 18	I'll thank the unions for my 40 hr work weeks. overtime for anything over 40. extensive training programs. paid vacations. safety programs etc.. and lets not forget, the car manufacturers signed a collective bargaining agreement with the unions. The unions are not the problem here. People agreeing to work for peanuts in other factories make it appear that way.