Deciding between s2000 and 370z.

kielbasa16 · 06-03-2010, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak

wow.....once you have civic drivers chiming in, thread goes to crap. Repeatedly. I owned an s2k and i was very involved with the crowd. I know the car literally 10 times more than i know the Z in every area. There is NO way you're gonna safely run 300 wtq for prolonged periods of time with stock internals and block. That 700whp vid is old. The owner did it solely for fun knowing the engine was gonna go. His plan was to rebuild it and make that much power reliably, but before doing it, he wanted to have some fun and see what kind of power the f20c could sustain. Just because it made that for a week or two don't mean it will run continuously. Come on people. Compare apples to apples. In terms of power, both stock and modified, the Z is NOT in the same league as the S. Like i admitted in a previous post, the S is an extremely well engineered piece of machinery. Maybe even one of the best engineered cars ever. However, the car was made in 1995 including the engine, drivetrain, chassis, etc. and it shows age. Admit certain things and give credit where it deserves people.

Selective reading much?

Zeto · 06-03-2010, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kielbasa16

Selective reading much?

Tell that to my friend who's been boosted for over a year and has put about 20,000 miles in his S. Would you like evidence?

kielbasa16 · 06-03-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeto

Tell that to my friend who's been boosted for over a year and has put about 20,000 miles in his S. Would you like evidence?

Is he running the same boost during DD as during his dyno run? If so, then power to the S2000. Granted 20K miles isnt a ton either... If something goes wrong within 60K then I would still blame it on how much boost hes running, all subjective though. My comment was just in regards to your response to one sentence supporting your argument versus the 5 saying youre wrong. I dont have nearly enough knowledge or experience to argue, I test drove the S2K once and loved it haha

Red370 · 06-03-2010, 12:45 PM

/thread.

kenchan · 06-03-2010, 01:18 PM

hey atleast we're comparing sushi with sashimi (not hamburgers and kimchee)

DRoc7822 · 06-03-2010, 01:51 PM

The 370 has only been out for 2 production years while the S2k had been out for a longer run than that. Like someone else already said on here, when it comes to modding the 370 has a lot more room to grow. Ive seen TT 2JZ (Supra engines) put into S2k before that made nasty power. You can make any car "fast", it just depends on how much money the person is willing to throw at it.

red6spd · 06-03-2010, 01:53 PM

Dam now I'm Hungry

Cyberium · 06-03-2010, 02:15 PM

I don't care how much power you can squeeze out of it. If you look like an adult in a power-wheel's when your driving it, then it's fail.com

Anyone of us could of bought a car that weighs 1000 pounds and then boosted the hell out of it to have a "faster" car than the Z. Fast isn't always the point.

The Z is in a different class entirely on many different levels.

And if you guys have such a hard-on for the s2000 then

and go buy one.

It's like when my cousin who has like a 97' honda hatchback says "Man, I'd probably smoke that Z when I get my turbo's installed" And I say... "Yeah maybe, but at the end of the day your driving a 97 Honda Hatchback"

/end thread

Zeto · 06-03-2010, 02:18 PM

I wouldn't say a hard-on but some people fail to see the potential the S2000 has. Now if you ask me which I would choose I think that's self explantory

DarkZide · 06-03-2010, 04:47 PM

This reminds me of the 4-5 civic hatch owners around here that all built B18's of doom. The internet told them XYZ setup and tune would make 480-500whp, they all made in the low 300s and blew up within 6 weeks, on built motors to boot.

tbonesteak · 06-03-2010, 07:15 PM

haha this thread is a circular conversation. Let's just agree to disagree people.

Red370 · 06-03-2010, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tbonesteak

haha this thread is a circular conversation. Let's just agree to disagree people.

to disagree.

Brazilbro · 06-03-2010, 10:30 PM

ya ya the f22 motor is nice.. but when both motors are built all things being the same displacement will win.. 2.2L vs 3.7L.. Ive seen Sound Performance making over 1200WHP with the VQ I haven't seen a F22 make more then 1000. Both are nice cars. But facts are facts. Displacement always wins.

Oh ya, S2ks stock tranny and rear end aren't good past 400whp..

Red__Zed · 11-10-2011, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazilbro

ya ya the f22 motor is nice.. but when both motors are built all things being the same displacement will win.. 2.2L vs 3.7L.. Ive seen Sound Performance making over 1200WHP with the VQ I haven't seen a F22 make more then 1000. Both are nice cars. But facts are facts. Displacement always wins.

Oh ya, S2ks stock tranny and rear end aren't good past 400whp..

I ran the stock trans at 700whp with no issues.

11Thumper · 11-10-2011, 01:53 PM

A bit of an update for me (relevant to this topic).

This past weekend I sold my '05 S2000. I bought it new and put about 50k miles on it. It was babied (looks and drives like new) so I got top dollar for it (above retail value), hence why I sold it. It was a good deal for the buyer too because it still had warranty and was never modified. Not a single accident either.

Now a few days later I find myself filled with regret. I love my Z so don't get me wrong, but I miss the S a lot. I ride sport bikes but only on weekends. The S was like riding a sportbike during the week. Truly an amazing experience!

So now I'm hunting for a used S2000. My budget is fairly low because I want to build more of a track car with it this time but there will be one sitting in my garage again soon.

I'll have my Z for a long time, but I'll probably always have an S.

06-03-2010, 12:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
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06-03-2010, 02:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cyberium Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vermont Posts: 379 Drives: 370z Touring \| Sport Rep Power: 18	I don't care how much power you can squeeze out of it. If you look like an adult in a power-wheel's when your driving it, then it's fail.com Anyone of us could of bought a car that weighs 1000 pounds and then boosted the hell out of it to have a "faster" car than the Z. Fast isn't always the point. The Z is in a different class entirely on many different levels. And if you guys have such a hard-on for the s2000 then and go buy one. It's like when my cousin who has like a 97' honda hatchback says "Man, I'd probably smoke that Z when I get my turbo's installed" And I say... "Yeah maybe, but at the end of the day your driving a 97 Honda Hatchback" /end thread __________________ Stillen G3 Intakes \| F. I TDX

06-03-2010, 10:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
Brazilbro A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 1,131 Drives: Juke/240Z Rep Power: 850	ya ya the f22 motor is nice.. but when both motors are built all things being the same displacement will win.. 2.2L vs 3.7L.. Ive seen Sound Performance making over 1200WHP with the VQ I haven't seen a F22 make more then 1000. Both are nice cars. But facts are facts. Displacement always wins. Oh ya, S2ks stock tranny and rear end aren't good past 400whp.. __________________ Juke AWD/240Z SR20 08 Evo 10(Stage 2) SOLD Fastest Sport 6spd 370Z 11.8 @126.5SOLD Last edited by Brazilbro; 06-03-2010 at 10:33 PM.

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06-03-2010, 01:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	hey atleast we're comparing sushi with sashimi (not hamburgers and kimchee)

06-03-2010, 01:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
DRoc7822 Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 67 Drives: 08 Mazdaspeed 3 Rep Power: 366	The 370 has only been out for 2 production years while the S2k had been out for a longer run than that. Like someone else already said on here, when it comes to modding the 370 has a lot more room to grow. Ive seen TT 2JZ (Supra engines) put into S2k before that made nasty power. You can make any car "fast", it just depends on how much money the person is willing to throw at it.

06-03-2010, 02:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Zeto Track Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North NJ Age: 42 Posts: 766 Drives: 09 Pearl White 370Z Rep Power: 269	I wouldn't say a hard-on but some people fail to see the potential the S2000 has. Now if you ask me which I would choose I think that's self explantory

06-03-2010, 04:47 PM	#10 (permalink)
DarkZide Enthusiast Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: TN Posts: 291 Drives: 2010 370z BC M6 Rep Power: 17	This reminds me of the 4-5 civic hatch owners around here that all built B18's of doom. The internet told them XYZ setup and tune would make 480-500whp, they all made in the low 300s and blew up within 6 weeks, on built motors to boot.

06-03-2010, 07:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
tbonesteak Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 914 Drives: MY09 MB 6MT Rep Power: 377	haha this thread is a circular conversation. Let's just agree to disagree people.

11-10-2011, 01:53 PM	#15 (permalink)
11Thumper Track Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 754 Drives: '11 370Z, '01 S2k Rep Power: 19	A bit of an update for me (relevant to this topic). This past weekend I sold my '05 S2000. I bought it new and put about 50k miles on it. It was babied (looks and drives like new) so I got top dollar for it (above retail value), hence why I sold it. It was a good deal for the buyer too because it still had warranty and was never modified. Not a single accident either. Now a few days later I find myself filled with regret. I love my Z so don't get me wrong, but I miss the S a lot. I ride sport bikes but only on weekends. The S was like riding a sportbike during the week. Truly an amazing experience! So now I'm hunting for a used S2000. My budget is fairly low because I want to build more of a track car with it this time but there will be one sitting in my garage again soon. I'll have my Z for a long time, but I'll probably always have an S.

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