What did you do with your Z today

370zproject · 05-27-2011, 11:45 PM

washed mine

Waiz · 05-28-2011, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by 370zproject

washed mine

Me too

kenchan · 05-28-2011, 06:39 AM

Zforce- thanks on the Ings.

Yah, the car actually toes out as the suspension travels in its programmed path. The toe-in setting offsets this so that u don't toe-out as much. Toe -out is like youre funneling in all bumps and road conditions for your car to digest while toe-in is like youre deflecting them to decide wat u want to digest and not overwelm stability.

Squirming comes from tires. New tires have more tread so that much rubber the car needs to twist in order to change the tire's direction. This is one reason why race cars in dry use slicks. Max contact patch and no tread to squirm.

Red__Zed · 05-28-2011, 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ZForce

Hey kenchan, first off the ings look great!

Well I took the car to another alignment shop and got the toe dialed into zero on all four corners. The camber is not wild like before meaning the dealership's rachk was ouit of calibration. Took it on a run this last Sat thru the canyon and.....maybe I am not used to zero toe on all fours but it was squirming a bit in the rear and the fronts felt wierd hitting bumps in the curves. You had some concerns running zero in the rears. Should I try running some toe in on the rears? I am not the best describing what is what without any proper track driving instructions and schooling so I apologize up front if I am not sure what I am supposed to be looking for. I only had about 200 miles on these new RE-11's. Could it be the tires have not scrubbed in yet?

Here are my current specs.

New alignment as of 5/20/11

Fr Left -1.6
Fr Right -1.5
Toe Left 0.00
Toe Right 0.00
Total Toe 0.00
Steer Ahead xx.xx

Rr Left -1.3
Rr Right -1.2
Toe Left 0.00
Toe Right 0.00
Total Toe 0.00
Thrust Angle 0.00

Why are you running no toe in the rear?

kenchan · 05-28-2011, 09:12 AM

red- he wants to save his RE11's rubber while driving on street.

ZForce · 05-28-2011, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Zforce- thanks on the Ings.

Yah, the car actually toes out as the suspension travels in its programmed path. The toe-in setting offsets this so that u don't toe-out as much. Toe -out is like youre funneling in all bumps and road conditions for your car to digest while toe-in is like youre deflecting them to decide wat u want to digest and not overwelm stability.

Squirming comes from tires. New tires have more tread so that much rubber the car needs to twist in order to change the tire's direction. This is one reason why race cars in dry use slicks. Max contact patch and no tread to squirm.

Hey thanks for the additional 101 in alignment and toe. What would be a good setting for toe for the rears? I know it's a loaded question, because tire wear versus performance. A toe setting to start out with to test, which I can always change weekely (with my life time free alignments).

kenchan · 05-28-2011, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce

Hey thanks for the additional 101 in alignment and toe. What would be a good setting for toe for the rears? I know it's a loaded question, because tire wear versus performance. A toe setting to start out with to test, which I can always change weekely (with my life time free alignments).

I would do 0.05 to 0.10 degrees per side if I had wear in mind. Id go a bit more aggressive for my car tho.. 0.10 to 0.15 per side. I think the factory setting is pretty aggressive. At 4000 miles my factory tires were about half done.

nynhex · 05-28-2011, 05:37 PM

Installed my Nismo TI shift knob today. However, the stock knob was a casualty of war.

kenchan · 05-28-2011, 05:39 PM

Looks good, nynhex!

LOL at stock knob. Who cares, right?

Red__Zed · 05-28-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

red- he wants to save his RE11's rubber while driving on street.

Hum. I wouldn't run no toe in the rear...

Red__Zed · 05-28-2011, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce

Hey thanks for the additional 101 in alignment and toe. What would be a good setting for toe for the rears? I know it's a loaded question, because tire wear versus performance. A toe setting to start out with to test, which I can always change weekely (with my life time free alignments).

I would stick with factory toe specs for the rear if you can.

nynhex · 05-28-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

Looks good, nynhex!

LOL at stock knob. Who cares, right?

Exactly, the TI shift knob is night and day from the stock... let it RIP

kenchan · 05-28-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by nynhex

Exactly, the TI shift knob is night and day from the stock... let it RIP

Agreed!

kenchan · 05-28-2011, 07:52 PM

No Z action for me today. Rain and rain and more rain.

But I got my spare Titeks in the mail

and will plug her to the battery manager until next weekend.
Looks like more rain tomorrow. need to take the G out on Monday.

Red__Zed · 05-28-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

No Z action for me today. Rain and rain and more rain.

But I got my spare Titeks in the mail

and will plug her to the battery manager until next weekend.
Looks like more rain tomorrow. need to take the G out on Monday.

bummer. I've been in a yaris all day...so it's even worse here

I'm actually thinking about picking up (another) DD, since the fiancee might be taking my subaru. Thinking about a Fit--how you like it?

05-27-2011, 11:45 PM	#2446 (permalink)
370zproject A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Memphis Age: 34 Posts: 16,104 Drives: 09 A/T 370z blue Rep Power: 52	washed mine __________________ Brake Upgrade Package ate blue, hawk hp ceramic pads, and slotted rotors

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05-28-2011, 06:39 AM	#2448 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	Zforce- thanks on the Ings. Yah, the car actually toes out as the suspension travels in its programmed path. The toe-in setting offsets this so that u don't toe-out as much. Toe -out is like youre funneling in all bumps and road conditions for your car to digest while toe-in is like youre deflecting them to decide wat u want to digest and not overwelm stability. Squirming comes from tires. New tires have more tread so that much rubber the car needs to twist in order to change the tire's direction. This is one reason why race cars in dry use slicks. Max contact patch and no tread to squirm.

05-28-2011, 09:12 AM	#2450 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	red- he wants to save his RE11's rubber while driving on street.

05-28-2011, 05:37 PM	#2453 (permalink)
nynhex Base Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Houston Posts: 247 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 371	Installed my Nismo TI shift knob today. However, the stock knob was a casualty of war.

05-28-2011, 05:39 PM	#2454 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	Looks good, nynhex! LOL at stock knob. Who cares, right?

05-28-2011, 07:52 PM	#2459 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141520	No Z action for me today. Rain and rain and more rain. But I got my spare Titeks in the mail and will plug her to the battery manager until next weekend. Looks like more rain tomorrow. need to take the G out on Monday.