Custom Machined Parts For Your 370Z

WarmAndSCSI · 06-18-2010, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SmoothZ

Intellectual Property Rights (IPR) search - cpb.gov

Be careful. The Z logo is a protected trademark. Once you mass produce those for resale w/o permission from the license holder, you're going to open yourself up to at least a Cease and Desist letter. Then you'll find out that someone will take your idea and have the Chinese mass produce it, smuggle it in, sell it, which means they're trafficking in counterfeit goods (among other violations).

While the fact that you have a good idea and can do it with garage tools is great if applying it to your car to make it unique, mass producing it is a whole new ball game.

I'm not a copyright lawyer by any stretch, but I think they're fine on this since the actual trademark is written to be only the number 370 + Z. Through that search, I don't see any trademark on just the "Z" name. However, since this is so similar to other renditions of the "Z" logo (which are inherently copyrighted), that could pose some issues if Nissan really decided to pursue it.

scruffydog · 06-16-2010, 10:22 PM

so if we're patient enough to wait past 2019 (the expiration date), we're good right?

frost · 06-16-2010, 10:25 PM

"Gray market" is the phrase used to describe the sale of new, used, surplus and refurbished products through unauthorized resellers or channels. Gray market goods, also commonly referred to as "parallel imports," may be considered unlawful when imported to the United States and sold in competition with authorized U.S. distributors.

SmoothZ · 06-17-2010, 07:06 AM

Gray market also means that the stuff is authentic but is manufactured and sold for different regions in the world but not for the US. It's like having overstock and bringing it here to compete with similar products. That stuff is usually smuggled in.

What frost posted.

Sibze · 06-17-2010, 08:04 AM

F Nissan, I want two!

Jordo! · 06-18-2010, 01:06 AM

Hey dude -- have you seen this?

The Z Store! Nissan-Datsun 240Z-260Z-280Z-280ZX-300ZX(Z31/Z32)-350Z-370Z Parts: 370Z Exterior

If you can beat their price and offer similar quality - win!

m4a1mustang · 06-18-2010, 07:26 AM

The Z store's emblems are injected molded plastic, so I'm pretty sure these will be a bit more expensive than those...

Jordo! · 06-18-2010, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The Z store's emblems are injected molded plastic, so I'm pretty sure these will be a bit more expensive than those...

I tried to ninja edit my post, but the forum locked up last night...

Those emblems haven't gotten great reviews...

Still, that's the competition, so I think he's gotta try and and at least match the price if at all possible to move these.

$250 a set may be well worth the quality, but that's a bit steep IMO for emblems...

I hate to say it, but if they go for that much, I'm probably out

AgStacker · 06-18-2010, 07:33 PM

I'm not trying to compete with those plastic emblems, The purpose of this thread was to create the highest quality custom badges for my personal car, and the cars of any one who contributed significantly to the production. I do not intend to sacrifice quality what so ever. That means lots of cutting time on the machine, I'm trying to reduce that as much as possible but I can only go so far before it affects the look of the badge.

Bottom Line. If you really want a set of these badges you'd better start saving your lunch money.

frost · 06-18-2010, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by AgStacker

I'm not trying to compete with those plastic emblems, The purpose of this thread was to create the highest quality custom badges for my personal car, and the cars of any one who contributed significantly to the production. I do not intend to sacrifice quality what so ever. That means lots of cutting time on the machine, I'm trying to reduce that as much as possible but I can only go so far before it affects the look of the badge.

Bottom Line. If you really want a set of these badges you'd better start saving your lunch money.

wheee! · 06-18-2010, 08:31 AM

Having said that, the Z STore plastic badges are over priced as well....

I would see these emblemz going for about $200 - $250 a set taking into consideration a volume production run of around 1000 sets. More than that will reduce sales, less would not be cost effective. Leave them as "unfinished" but properly cut, drilled and tapped for installation. Everyone will customize them further. I know I will...

LinPark · 06-18-2010, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by wheee!

Having said that, the Z STore plastic badges are over priced as well....

I would see these emblemz going for about $200 - $250 a set taking into consideration a volume production run of around 1000 sets. More than that will reduce sales, less would not be cost effective. Leave them as "unfinished" but properly cut, drilled and tapped for installation. Everyone will customize them further. I know I will...

Who's fronting the near $200,000 for that first production run?

I can PayPal my money whenever you're ready!

Modshack · 06-18-2010, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by wheee!

I would see these emblemz going for about $200 - $250 a set taking into consideration a volume production run of around 1000 sets.

Wow...1000 sets? I think that is wildly optimistic...

m4a1mustang · 06-18-2010, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

Wow...1000 sets? I think that is wildly optimistic...

Yep. A more accurate initial sale is probably between 15-25 sets.

Modshack · 06-18-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yep. A more accurate initial sale is probably between 15-25 sets.

I agree....BTDT....

I have a friend who came up with a really slick Audi TT interior piece, priced around $50. He was so confident, he made up 100... 4 years later he still has 85 taking up space in a closet..

06-17-2010, 07:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
SmoothZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Arrakis Posts: 7,952 Drives: giant sandworm Rep Power: 36	Gray market also means that the stuff is authentic but is manufactured and sold for different regions in the world but not for the US. It's like having overstock and bringing it here to compete with similar products. That stuff is usually smuggled in. What frost posted. __________________ "Once you go Asian, you never go Caucasian." "I talk to myself, and when I do that, I know I'm talking to an intelligent person."

06-18-2010, 01:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
Jordo! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: nirvana Posts: 6,394 Drives: 2023 NATM Rep Power: 419	Hey dude -- have you seen this? The Z Store! Nissan-Datsun 240Z-260Z-280Z-280ZX-300ZX(Z31/Z32)-350Z-370Z Parts: 370Z Exterior If you can beat their price and offer similar quality - win! __________________ Enjoy it. Destroy it.

06-18-2010, 07:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	The Z store's emblems are injected molded plastic, so I'm pretty sure these will be a bit more expensive than those... __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

06-18-2010, 07:33 PM	#9 (permalink)
AgStacker Base Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: SF bay area Posts: 95 Drives: Car Rep Power: 16	I'm not trying to compete with those plastic emblems, The purpose of this thread was to create the highest quality custom badges for my personal car, and the cars of any one who contributed significantly to the production. I do not intend to sacrifice quality what so ever. That means lots of cutting time on the machine, I'm trying to reduce that as much as possible but I can only go so far before it affects the look of the badge. Bottom Line. If you really want a set of these badges you'd better start saving your lunch money. Last edited by AgStacker; 06-18-2010 at 07:41 PM.

06-18-2010, 08:31 AM	#11 (permalink)
wheee! A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Mod Capital of Canada Age: 58 Posts: 7,354 Drives: cars. lots of cars. Rep Power: 40182	Having said that, the Z STore plastic badges are over priced as well.... I would see these emblemz going for about $200 - $250 a set taking into consideration a volume production run of around 1000 sets. More than that will reduce sales, less would not be cost effective. Leave them as "unfinished" but properly cut, drilled and tapped for installation. Everyone will customize them further. I know I will... __________________ H&R / Stillen / Berk / HKS / Swift / Michelin / UpRev / SPC / Amuse Rep / Seibon / Fringe XVO / TWM / more... My Journal

06-16-2010, 10:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
scruffydog A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Nor Cal Posts: 1,113 Drives: with his eyes close Rep Power: 718	so if we're patient enough to wait past 2019 (the expiration date), we're good right?

06-17-2010, 08:04 AM	#5 (permalink)
Sibze A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 16,202 Drives: In your way Rep Power: 64	F Nissan, I want two!

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