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Originally Posted by Lug so by MSN user ratings the Z actually outperforms the Vette! Wow! I think I see some real fanboi action there! It probably does. Performance doesn't

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Old 08-26-2010, 06:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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so by MSN user ratings the Z actually outperforms the Vette! Wow! I think I see some real fanboi action there!
It probably does. Performance doesn't just mean all-out. It can also mean how well a car does what it was designed to do. For instance, maybe the 370Z doesn't grind gears when cold like cars that have the TR6060 transmission do? Ergo, performing better.

I don't think it means they think it is faster.
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It probably does. Performance doesn't just mean all-out. It can also mean how well a car does what it was designed to do. For instance, maybe the 370Z doesn't grind gears when cold like cars that have the TR6060 transmission do? Ergo, performing better.

I don't think it means they think it is faster.
I didn't say just faster, I said "outperforms". The vette will dominate the Z on any track or any straight line race of any distance you can name (with the possible exception of an autoX course in your local shopping mall parking lot). I love the Z but am not going to redefine the meaning of what a sports car is so my favorite car can "win". What's next? The Z has better performance because our calipers are a prettier color? The vette handles the same as the Z, out-mucles it by over 100 hp, AND is lighter. It's simply physics. Now, you can make a case about interiors, or "feel" or driving experience, or value, but you can't reasonably say a stock Z outperforms a stock vette.
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I didn't say just faster, I said "outperforms". The vette will dominate the Z on any track or any straight line race of any distance you can name (with the possible exception of an autoX course in your local shopping mall parking lot). I love the Z but am not going to redefine the meaning of what a sports car is so my favorite car can "win". What's next? The Z has better performance because our calipers are a prettier color? The vette handles the same as the Z, out-mucles it by over 100 hp, AND is lighter. It's simply physics. Now, you can make a case about interiors, or "feel" or driving experience, or value, but you can't reasonably say a stock Z outperforms a stock vette.
totally agree on all points.but you left out the corvette list for at least 20 to 25 grand more. love's a strong word, i love my wife and kids,"well on most days"

i've owned both cars and loved them both each two different times.
but if i only get to choose one more before its all over sorry its the vette.
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It probably does. Performance doesn't just mean all-out. It can also mean how well a car does what it was designed to do. For instance, maybe the 370Z doesn't grind gears when cold like cars that have the TR6060 transmission do? Ergo, performing better.

I don't think it means they think it is faster.
The Vette will blow the doors off the 370!
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The Vette will blow the doors off the 370!
not if they were miata doors. but they aint so it will blow them doors off.
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not if they were miata doors. but they aint so it will blow them doors off.
buys 370Z chassis, vette engine, and miata doors.....builds The Beast 2/3rds from The East.
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buys 370Z chassis, vette engine, and miata doors.....builds The Beast 2/3rds from The East.
Id love a 370Z with the vette engine and its power and tq. Would need a good LSd tho maybe AWD.
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Id love a 370Z with the vette engine and its power and tq. Would need a good LSd tho maybe AWD.
The vette engine would be nice (although I'd rather drop the new mustang engine in there) but seriously, the miata doors is what makes this car a CAR!
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Not if it can't get out of first gear, lol. Read up on the TR6060 transmission. Lots of them don't like to shift so much.

My point wasnt that the SOTP or measured acceleration was better, but that the car worked better. It did what it was designed to do better.
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Not if it can't get out of first gear, lol. Read up on the TR6060 transmission. Lots of them don't like to shift so much.

My point wasnt that the SOTP or measured acceleration was better, but that the car worked better. It did what it was designed to do better.
a 0 60 in 4 secs seems to get off the line pretty good.
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a 0 60 in 4 secs seems to get off the line pretty good.
I think you are missing the point I was trying to make. The 'vette is prone to grinding gears due to the increased size of gears in the TR6060 vs. the T56, thus necessitating smaller (less effective) syncro's, while the Z, from what I understand, does not have this issue.

The 'vette body was thrown togather from crap materials with a stellar engine and suspension and a so-so transmission with the sole purpose of being fast--and it is. Handles well, too!

I relate it to having a 3500 square-foot house that has no furniture vs. a 2500 square-foot house that is nicely furnished. Yeah...you got a big house and you spent the same money as the guy with the 2500sq foot, but it's kinda stupid living with it after you get over your advantage on paper, isn't it?

I went from a 350 horsepower car ('01 WS6) that broke literally weekly to my 145bhp INfiniti G20. They handle about the same and the G20 hasn't broken in several months (since I had it).

I like the G. It doesn't rattle, either. Speakers don't crackle. Etc.

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I think you are missing the point I was trying to make. Hitting all the gears without grinding is cool!
I dont think the grinding of the gears is as bad as you say. Ive been in the forums too and they are not as bad as you are making them out to be. Its just here and there like how things are here and there on all cars. Did a corvette turn you down or something?
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I dont think the grinding of the gears is as bad as you say. Ive been in the forums too and they are not as bad as you are making them out to be. Its just here and there like how things are here and there on all cars. Did a corvette turn you down or something?
"Turn me down"?? What do you mean? You got me there, I am confused.

I am in the market and just comparing the cars and saying what I have seen. The TR6060 is used in lots of cars, and most of them (Challengers, GT500's, 'vette's) are having issues since the re-design of the T56 (and morph into the TR6060).

Tremec has changed syncro material for 2011 'vettes (dunno about the other cars, as the GT500 '11's still have horrible trans issues). I am curious to what difference it makes. Not enough '11 'vettes in the field to see, yet.

I would love the performance of a Z06, but the interior would bother me I think. It looks ok on the showroom, but the rattles in time would get to me, as would the seats if they degrade as fast as people say, etc. It really does seem 2nd or 3rd tier materials used to allow for that engine/suspension and still come in at the $$ it does. Nothing is free. I just drew my limit at $60K, and it seems at $60K or less, I must choose: speed or quality.

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