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flashburn 05-09-2010 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 530063)
Seeing the pics, Had that Happen to Me, I would've probably been thrown in Jail. I would taking a bat to that fuking ladies car :mad:
Seriously, I'm not a very violent person, but I think I would completely lose my cool if that happened to me.

nutoz 05-09-2010 09:17 AM
WOW dude. I feel like crying for you. that happen to me , I would of thought of going postal ( just a thought). I worked at dealer body shop in the past and my 2 cents is, find the painter that is good either at dealer or body shop. check their spray booth. its all in the prep work and matching and blending and understanding how the paint behaves makes the paint job. good luck

flashburn 05-09-2010 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Cunnos (Post 530363)
She was like Pakistani or something and she kept mumbling. As soon as i saw it i ran across the parking lot and witnessed her trying to get out--i.e-scraping my car and ruining the entire left side. I banged on her trunk and started swearing.....she got out and mumbled a bunch of stuff and then i had to walk away for a second as I kinda went into shock......afterwards I had to jump in my car and back it out, the noise was TERRIBLE!!!!! then i was inspecting the damage i noticed my mirror was scratched and she comes over and goes "i didnt hit that part"......i flipped you know what.......i then got all her insurance info and took off......its kinda ridiculous how stupid people are.........its like u hit a car, confess up to it, apologize, and then offer to pay.......i cant wait to see what happens tomorrow when i call my insurance.......im not paying one single cent for this.....they better pay teh deductible too
Okay, after reading this, I definitely would've lost it. I probably would of beat her face in. :mad: @ myself.

Zsteve 05-09-2010 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Triple's (Post 530063)
Seeing the pics, Had that Happen to Me, I would've probably been thrown in Jail. I would taking a bat to that fuking ladies car :mad:
http://www.the370z.com/attachments/n...p-img_1345.jpg
http://www.the370z.com/attachments/n...p-img_1346.jpg
Man I would have call a tow truck to pull her car sideways and help prevent so much damage.

And even if she did hit your car how did she expect you to get in it?

depending on how bad the dents are they may have to replace all the panel on that side. And that is prbably what I would demand to ensure no problems later on with little things poping up. I had a car hit my Audi door and the dent looked like someone just kick the door panel, no scratch just a dent and they replaced the whole door.

Diocletian 05-09-2010 10:45 AM
For all you foreigners out there, the offending parties' insurance company will handle the damages, but the process will be long and annoying to get a check from them. He first has to put in a claim with this lady's insurance company, then a claims adjuster will have to come out and assess the damage, he will then give them an estimate on the damages. After that is approved he will get a check from the morons insurance company.

This process and take days and even weeks to complete. I totally feel for the OP in this situation. Please post more damage pictures and of course pics when it is repaired!

Zsteve 05-09-2010 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Diocletian (Post 530463)
For all you foreigners out there, the offending parties' insurance company will handle the damages, but the process will be long and annoying to get a check from them. He first has to put in a claim with this lady's insurance company, then a claims adjuster will have to come out and assess the damage, he will then give them an estimate on the damages. After that is approved he will get a check from the morons insurance company.

This process and take days and even weeks to complete. I totally feel for the OP in this situation. Please post more damage pictures and of course pics when it is repaired!
When my car was hit I called ins company got 3 estimates, ins said go for it and I took it in and got it fixed and let the ins pay. no hassles.

Now the real important thing to do is to make sure you get a claim for diminshed value as your car will probably show up on car fax and you will lose resale value. I was told to start at 10% of the cars original value new and go from there.

mnms370Z 05-09-2010 11:29 AM
My Story
 
The 3rd time driving my car I decided to take my son to school in it. While in line to drop him at the front entrance many of his friends came over to look at the new ride. The lady in front of me decided to back up and try to get out of line before the car in front of her. She backed right into me as I was talking to the guys about the car. Small dent i the nose and a scrape. I was fit to be tied.

Knowing a body shop guy we insisted on replacing the nose and not sanding and repainting and it looks as good as new.

Good luck getting it fixed and done right.

ChrisSlicks 05-09-2010 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Diocletian (Post 530463)
For all you foreigners out there, the offending parties' insurance company will handle the damages, but the process will be long and annoying to get a check from them. He first has to put in a claim with this lady's insurance company, then a claims adjuster will have to come out and assess the damage, he will then give them an estimate on the damages. After that is approved he will get a check from the morons insurance company.

This process and take days and even weeks to complete. I totally feel for the OP in this situation. Please post more damage pictures and of course pics when it is repaired!
Not quite as painful in MA. He files the claim through his own insurance company, and his insurance adjuster will come and take a look at it to estimate the amount of damage or declare it a total loss (obviously not in this case). Repairs can be started immediately at the repair shop of his own choosing, any further damages discovered during the repair process are covered by an adjustment claim from the repair shop.

You don't have to pay any out of pocket, his own insurance company will be going after the other party's insurance for the full amount.

Zsteve 05-09-2010 11:53 AM
even if you let her ins pay for it, you are suppose to let your ins know about it. Not sure if thats law or just so they know.

CrownR426 05-09-2010 11:57 AM
sadness...

k20z3 05-09-2010 12:28 PM
I'm sorry man, that is why elderly people should be escorted by a bus only.

Xan 05-09-2010 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 530477)

Now the real important thing to do is to make sure you get a claim for diminshed value as your car will probably show up on car fax and you will lose resale value. I was told to start at 10% of the cars original value new and go from there.
This was the same thing I was saying and just wanted to make sure you didn't miss it. As they won't offer it up, but with a 2 week old car you have a really strong case and I would make sure you max this out... even 10% sounds low to me...

Modshack 05-09-2010 02:00 PM
WTF?.....She obviously needed to be parking in one of these spots...

http://images9.fotki.com/v450/photos...parking-vi.jpg

ZedZed 05-09-2010 02:02 PM
I must have missed something cause I don't get how she could have "parked" her car in such a manner without noticing she was touching your car? This looks like it was done on purpose rather than just plain bad parking.

I also think I would have lost my nerve... well not physically (no need for that really) but verbally for sure.

Why is it always nice cars that get damaged by fools? You don't see crappy cars getting damaged by bloody nincompoops :(

Zsteve 05-09-2010 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 530670)
WTF?.....She obviously needed to be parking in one of these spots...

http://images9.fotki.com/v450/photos...parking-vi.jpg
and driving one of these:

Modshack 05-09-2010 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 530477)
Now the real important thing to do is to make sure you get a claim for diminshed value as your car will probably show up on car fax and you will lose resale value. I was told to start at 10% of the cars original value new and go from there.
Yeah...You are owed this and most insurance companies understand why but may not be real easy to deal with. Call the Ins co. and tell them you want to file for diminished value. They will send an appraiser out to look at the car after the repairs and determine 1) repair related shortcomings, and 2) Inherent diminished value from the car now having a record of damage.

I got a couple of grand back after my hit....

Cunnos 05-09-2010 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 530674)
and driving one of these:
I just went out to my Z this afternoon and almost lost it....i still cannot believe this happened. I will taking the Z to the dealership tomorrow and going through the whole claims process...........this completely ruins it though, i will always be thinking now that i have a repaired car rather than a brand spankin new car.........ALSO i wanna thank everyone for the support, especially those who gave me some info on the claims process, i will definitely be making a claim for loss of value.....all you guys have made this entire emotional rollercoaster a little better with your support ---thanks guys, ill post more pics tomorrow---i will never be parking in a crowded parking lot again, if i do im going to surrond the car with barbed wire, steel poles, and pitbulls so that nobody can touch the car

Zsteve 05-09-2010 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Cunnos (Post 530680)
I just went out to my Z this afternoon and almost lost it....i still cannot believe this happened. I will taking the Z to the dealership tomorrow and going through the whole claims process...........this completely ruins it though, i will always be thinking now that i have a repaired car rather than a brand spankin new car.........ALSO i wanna thank everyone for the support, especially those who gave me some info on the claims process, i will definitely be making a claim for loss of value.....all you guys have made this entire emotional rollercoaster a little better with your support ---thanks guys, ill post more pics tomorrow---i will never be parking in a crowded parking lot again, if i do im going to surrond the car with barbed wire, steel poles, and pitbulls so that nobody can touch the car
dont fret when you get it back just drive and have fun. love the ride

Xan 05-09-2010 02:24 PM
This might be totally over the top, but definitely something I would try and do...
But couldn't you take the damaged car, the money you get for the repairs and the money you get for the diminished value all to the dealer and say; "you can have this car as it is, all the money and I want a new 40th..."

They might be able to get a cheaper rate on the repair. And have no emotional problem with it being a perfectly repaired car, which might just make it a good deal for them...

ZedZed 05-09-2010 02:25 PM
It'll probably take you a few weeks before you forget about it completely and you start enjoying your car as if nothing happened. I was the same when some idiot drove into my car, 2 weeks after I had bought it...

Zsteve 05-09-2010 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 530699)
This might be totally over the top, but definitely something I would try and do...
But couldn't you take the damaged car, the money you get for the repairs and the money you get for the diminished value all to the dealer and say; "you can have this car as it is, all the money and I want a new 40th..."

They might be able to get a cheaper rate on the repair. And have no emotional problem with it being a perfectly repaired car, which might just make it a good deal for them...
Not sure you can, I think most ins companies write the check to the place doing the fix and not to you. plus the dealer will know you are desperate and make you pay more.

Xan 05-09-2010 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 530709)
Not sure you can, I think most ins companies write the check to the place doing the fix and not to you. plus the dealer will know you are desperate and make you pay more.
Figured as your dealer could be the one repairing it and gets the check and you would say, if you can't do this, just have the repairs done...

Not saying it's a sure thing, but it might be worth a try?

Modshack 05-09-2010 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 530699)
This might be totally over the top, but definitely something I would try and do...
But couldn't you take the damaged car, the money you get for the repairs and the money you get for the diminished value all to the dealer and say; "you can have this car as it is, all the money and I want a new 40th..."
C'mon.....Why pay for depreciation when you don't have to? Betcha that little move will cost you $4K +++. The damage is not that bad. Maybe a little filler and some paint work. If you can't get over that you shouldn't be dirving a new car.

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Originally Posted by ZedZed (Post 530703)
It'll probably take you a few weeks before you forget about it completely and you start enjoying your car as if nothing happened. I was the same when some idiot drove into my car, 2 weeks after I had bought it...
Exactly......My car was 5 days and 200 miles old when someone caused $7K damage to it. It's been better than new for awhile now, I got my diminished value check (paid for my mods) and all is like it never happened. Actually, my paint is better than OEM so it was a good score!

Modshack 05-09-2010 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Xan (Post 530721)
Figured as your dealer could be the one repairing it
Lets hope not.....Go to the best body shop in town. This may not necessarily not necessarily be the dealer's if they even have a captive body shop. Body work is body work.....The dealer would have no advantage here unless their shop is a quality one. Not often the case with dealer affiliated body operations..

wishihadnav 05-09-2010 03:34 PM
The only real advantage of a "dealer shop" would be the use of oem parts...this is not always the case but seeing how new our cars the aftrmarket sheet metals probly havnt been produced yet..whatevr the case your paint will not and cannot be perfectly matched to the rest of the car due to different paint n baking techniques..id have them try to paint the whole thing instead of color matching..goodluck.

Modshack 05-09-2010 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 530799)
The only real advantage of a "dealer shop" would be the use of oem parts...this is not always the case but seeing how new our cars the aftrmarket sheet metals probly havnt been produced yet..whatevr the case your paint will not and cannot be perfectly matched to the rest of the car due to different paint n baking techniques..id have them try to paint the whole thing instead of color matching..goodluck.
Of course they'll be using OEM parts (any independent shop)...Not enough volume to be knocking off Clones at this stage of the game. This isn't a Honda Civic., besides the OEM body panels aren't that expensive. Paint the whole car? I think not. There's no reason a quality shop can't do a perfect blended match. Can you tell mine's been painted from the doors forward including the hood? Thought not. In person the finish is better than OEM. Don't scare the guy!

http://images52.fotki.com/v1554/phot...MG_2042-vi.jpg

http://images49.fotki.com/v1494/phot...MG_1930-vi.jpg

Zsteve 05-09-2010 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 530824)
Of course they'll be using OEM parts (any independent shop)...Not enough volume to be knocking off Clones at this stage of the game. This isn't a Honda Civic., besides the OEM body panels aren't that expensive. Paint the whole car? I think not. There's no reason a quality shop can't do a perfect blended match. Can you tell mine's been painted from the doors forward including the hood? Thought not. In person the finish is better than OEM. Don't scare the guy!

http://images52.fotki.com/v1554/phot...MG_2042-vi.jpg

http://images49.fotki.com/v1494/phot...MG_1930-vi.jpg
And I have found that they like to replace parts/panels so they can make more money and make the job easier.

Modshack 05-09-2010 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 530842)
And I have found that they like to replace parts/panels so they can make more money and make the job easier.
Yup...They replaced this hood. Not dented much but it did have a little bow in it. Plus working with aluminum can be tricky. The $535 + paint was cheaper than massaging it back into shape..

http://images44.fotki.com/v1470/phot...MG_1477-vi.jpg

wishihadnav 05-09-2010 04:14 PM
I'm not trying to scare the guy..this is what I know from experience...past 10yrs in the ins biz and before that 7yrs wholesaling honda/acura parts to bodyshops...I've delt with hundreds of shops...even taken a class on bodyshop repairs..I know how it works on the bodyshop as well as insurance end...its impossible to perfectly color match..it cannot be done...shops can get damn close..I mean really close..but not perfect..half the time nissan can't get the match right..haha..but I think we've have this conv in another thread..

wishihadnav 05-09-2010 04:17 PM
Bodyshops can only use parts that the insurance company will approve..some companies will not approve oem parts if aftrmarket/used parts are available..obviously trying to save money..I ran into this all the time unfortunately..

Zsteve 05-09-2010 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 530853)
I'm not trying to scare the guy..this is what I know from experience...past 10yrs in the ins biz and before that 7yrs wholesaling honda/acura parts to bodyshops...I've delt with hundreds of shops...even taken a class on bodyshop repairs..I know how it works on the bodyshop as well as insurance end...its impossible to perfectly color match..it cannot be done...shops can get damn close..I mean really close..but not perfect..half the time nissan can't get the match right..haha..but I think we've have this conv in another thread..
well Ive had my bumper repainted too and Modshacks has been done and you cant tell the difference to the human eye, so OP dont worry it will look fine when you get it back if you go to a reputable shop and not some crappy one trying to make some money.

wishihadnav 05-09-2010 04:29 PM
I'm sure it'll come out fine..last year I got sideswipped n 5 panels had to be replaced/fixed..they did a good job for me...they use plastics insteads of bondo now which is better..I did tell the bodyshop to take "extra care" of my car or I wouldn't send them any more business..hahah..

wishihadnav 05-09-2010 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 530824)
Of course they'll be using OEM parts (any independent shop)...Not enough volume to be knocking off Clones at this stage of the game. This isn't a Honda Civic., besides the OEM body panels aren't that expensive. Paint the whole car? I think not. There's no reason a quality shop can't do a perfect blended match. Can you tell mine's been painted from the doors forward including the hood? Thought not. In person the finish is better than OEM. Don't scare the guy!

http://images52.fotki.com/v1554/phot...MG_2042-vi.jpg

http://images49.fotki.com/v1494/phot...MG_1930-vi.jpg
I can tell!:p

Modshack 05-09-2010 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 530853)
its impossible to perfectly color match..it cannot be done...shops can get damn close..I mean really close..but not perfect..

I'm sorry, but my 2 times experiencing the need for paint work trumps your 10 years of experience. Guess I'm just lucky with the choice of quality shops.

My old TT had the left quarter blended in after a key job, by a Glasurit trained Painter/shop. And this in a Pearl Blue color. You could not tell even if you knew where to look....Just lucky I guess based on your observations..

http://images51.fotki.com/v423/photo...SC02355-vi.jpg

Zsteve 05-09-2010 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 530878)
I'm sorry, but my 2 times experiencing the need for paint work trumps your 10 years of experience. Guess I'm just lucky with the choice of quality shops.

My old TT had the left quarter blended in after a key job, by a Glasurri trained Painter/shop. And this in a Pearl Blue color. You could nit tell even if you knew where to look (hint: it's just above the wheel arch, 8 inch long repair)....Just lucky I guess based on your observations..

http://images51.fotki.com/v423/photo...SC02355-vi.jpg
some nice memories of my TTs.

wishihadnav 05-09-2010 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Modshack (Post 530882)
I'm sorry, but my 2 times experiencing the need for paint work trumps your 10 years of experience. Guess I'm just lucky with the choice of quality shops.

My old TT had the left quarter blended in after a key job, by a Glasurit trained Painter/shop. And this in a Pearl Blue color. You could not tell even if you knew where to look....Just lucky I guess based on your observations..

http://images51.fotki.com/v423/photo...SC02355-vi.jpg
Looks great..I don't doubt they did a excellent job for...but its hard to tell the slight differences in finish from a picture.

wishihadnav 05-09-2010 05:40 PM
Let me clarify..unless you have the exact same paint (not just color code) shot from the same gun n baked at the same temperture...its impossible to get a perfect match..manufactures bake the sheet metal at about twice the temp of bodyshops..

nicknick 05-09-2010 05:52 PM
That "person" and that parking is unbelievable! Who could do that? Was she on drugs? Was she in her right mind? Man that is totally F***ed up!
I hope you get it fixed 100%.

Zsteve 05-09-2010 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wishihadnav (Post 530919)
Let me clarify..unless you have the exact same paint (not just color code) shot from the same gun n baked at the same temperture...its impossible to get a perfect match..manufactures bake the sheet metal at about twice the temp of bodyshops..
we all know this and we are just saying that a billion cars a day get repainted and a few of us here have had our Z repainted already and are telling the OP it will all be good and he wont be able to tell. Even if it wasnt the exact same paint his car was shoot with in the beginning. The way you make it sound that any time a car has to be repainted you need to do the whole car, not so.

wishihadnav 05-09-2010 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Zsteve (Post 530937)
we all know this and we are just saying that a billion cars a day get repainted and a few of us here have had our Z repainted already and are telling the OP it will all be good and he wont be able to tell. Even if it wasnt the exact same paint his car was shoot with in the beginning. The way you make it sound that any time a car has to be repainted you need to do the whole car, not so.
It was just a suggestion..from the looks of it at least three panels have been damaged including the quarter..this is a forum so I assumed that all opinions are welcome here..of course I wish the best outcome for the OP...especially since he has a sexy 40th!..and I disagree that evrybody knows this..


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