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Why the 400Z was killed

Since Pontiac went out of business, all aftermarket/upgrade parts for my car have double to tripled I just want a Z before it dies!

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Old 04-12-2010, 08:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Since Pontiac went out of business, all aftermarket/upgrade parts for my car have double to tripled
I just want a Z before it dies!
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Old 04-12-2010, 08:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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and i just want you to change your avatar before i get a seizure... lol

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and i just want you to change your avatar before i get a seizure... lol

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Old 04-12-2010, 09:22 PM   #4 (permalink)
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400z.... damn!!
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^^ agree, america (for better or worse) is going to have to start building smaller lighter coupes without going too far (solstice/sky) if they want to stay in that market. i undestand their pain though, i too love the pur of a good v8 under the hood and the smirky smile you get from rowing the gears in a "muscle car" but driving a well sorted Z gets me more excited (GTR was even more so!)
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^^ agree, america (for better or worse) is going to have to start building smaller lighter coupes without going too far (solstice/sky) if they want to stay in that market. i undestand their pain though, i too love the pur of a good v8 under the hood and the smirky smile you get from rowing the gears in a "muscle car" but driving a well sorted Z gets me more excited (GTR was even more so!)
I agree. It may just be my irrational speculation, but for some strange reason I see this new Mustang as the apex of this transition. It's gonna be damn hard to outperform that thing (overall) for the PRICE. I, personally, see that Mustang as one of the last true mass-produced muscle cars of America.
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Nissan discontinued the 300ZX because it was getting non-profitable with the TT's and was almost the same price as the Corvette with less power and performance. Sales declined to almost nothing and they had no ideas how to correct it. The convertible 300ZX TT 2+2 was close to 50K back in 96.
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The convertible 300ZX TT 2+2 was close to 50K back in 96.
There was no 2+2 or TT convertible in the US.
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There was no 2+2 or TT convertible in the US.
there was the


Slicktop non turbo
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2+2 non turbo
convertible non turbo

nissan should have brought over the slicktop twin turbo, and 2+2 twin turbo.
they would have sold alot more. not to mention they should have offered the non turbos 4.08's gears as an option. swapping to the non turbo diff from the TT alone saves 110lbs and the slick top is around 120lbs lighter then the t-top. a stock 300zx twin turbo slicktop that weighed around 3250lbs with 4.08 gears from the factory? that would have murked everything in it's class.

and if there is a 400z, it's going to be just like the M3. 2 or 2+2 config with a 4.0 high revvin V8.

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"Unprofitable", the Z is going to die!
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having the 2 seat only and the 2+2 split between nissan and infiniti has been good though, keeps the prices lower on the 2 seat version and more room to move up on the 2+2 since they are aimed at a different clientele.
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rather than a 400Z, i think Z would be the perfect base for a high performance electric car from nissan. The Z is never going to have more displacement than its muscle car competitors. The Z has enough heritage and following that there would be a line out the door waiting to get an electric Z, if it outperformed previous models. it would be a totally new technology but the car would have a history. plus since its a Z it wouldn't be ugly like almost every other electric.
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Well, there are still plenty of unsold 2009 Z's left around where I live. So unless sales pick up, I don't see how the Z can go on.
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Well, I guess it's the end of the road. Hell I want to get one but now there going to end it.
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Well, there are still plenty of unsold 2009 Z's left around where I live. So unless sales pick up, I don't see how the Z can go on.

There may be a lot of '09s left...but whats the selection like? Any base + sport + MT? There are plenty of '09s left around here too...EVERY last one of them with an automatic transmission.

The reality is the recession has likely bumped the Z out of the price range of a lot of people that may have been considering it before. As much of a niche car as it may be Nissan really hasn't helped their own cause much. They could offer rebates or great financing rates on it once in awhile. Don't know if it's still going on but even Porsche was offering 1.9% on all their vehicles not long ago.
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