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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 One thing that's bad about the japanese sports car market in america. They like to tease us with great, but not there perfect examples of there

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Old 04-12-2010, 06:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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One thing that's bad about the japanese sports car market in america. They like to tease us with great, but not there perfect examples of there autos. Let's keep it real. Japan never gives us the best versions of there sports cars. And when they do. They give us a heavier not as great version. they are as fickle with us as we are with them. They might do a 240sx? If its the same plan they were working on in 07-08. It won't do as well as other competitors coming out. A mazda rx7, toyota ft-86(along eith subie version) and mitsubishi is working on another awd 290hp eclipse that might possibly come out for 2012.(still not much word on that car. Its on the hush)
The Z has not been the kind of car to be in the middle of a line up of similar cars. When they pulled in the 90's. The 3000gt, eclipse awd, supra, rx7, and corvette were all in the game. Nissan jumped out and cancelled there cars. I'm not saying they can't compete with those cars cuz they can. But it seems like, when the Z is in a very competitive american market. Nissan pulls out.
Are the japanese are still angry over WW2? Or is it renault(france) is still mad about freedom fries??? Lol.
Either way... let by gones be by gones and stay in the game. 400z baby.
I don't understand this post. The 240Z was created especially for the American market, and most Nissan design is done in the USA. The USA is by far the largest market for cars. And heavier cars in the USA have always been due to mandated safety equipment. The WW2 comment and the "freedom fries" comment (is there anything more pathetic than the idiots who coined "freedom fries"?) are uncalled-for. And the RX-7, 3000GT and Supra were all pulled for the same reason the 300ZX was pulled. They couldn't sell any of them.
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Leave Ghost alone, he green-lighted the 350Z in the first place, and he knows his marketing. We'd all be driving Mustangs and used Caymans if not for Ghost.
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Leave Ghost alone, he green-lighted the 350Z in the first place, and he knows his marketing. We'd all be driving Mustangs and used Caymans if not for Ghost.
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I don't understand this post. The 240Z was created especially for the American market, and most Nissan design is done in the USA. The USA is by far the largest market for cars. And heavier cars in the USA have always been due to mandated safety equipment. .....And the RX-7, 3000GT and Supra were all pulled for the same reason the 300ZX was pulled. They couldn't sell any of them.

Unfortunately, the US is the number two market for cars (behind China) and losing ground rapidly as China's growth rate is exponentially higher. You're right about the US requirements dictating the viability of sports cars for Japan, Inc. Unfortunately, the future for sports cars isn't all that brilliant now in the U.S. The 35.5 mpg CAFE requirements are going to fundamentally change the automotive mix in the states. Enjoy your Z now, while you can still buy one!
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Unfortunately, the US is the number two market for cars (behind China) and losing ground rapidly as China's growth rate is exponentially higher. You're right about the US requirements dictating the viability of sports cars for Japan, Inc. Unfortunately, the future for sports cars isn't all that brilliant now in the U.S. The 35.5 mpg CAFE requirements are going to fundamentally change the automotive mix in the states. Enjoy your Z now, while you can still buy one!
The one thing people are ignoring with the new CAFE standards is that it is an average based on sales. So Nissan can offload hundreds of thousands of hybrids/sentras/etc. and then can allow the Z or GT-R to survive with lower MPG ratings.
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The one thing people are ignoring with the new CAFE standards is that it is an average based on sales. So Nissan can offload hundreds of thousands of hybrids/sentras/etc. and then can allow the Z or GT-R to survive with lower MPG ratings.
That's assuming we can get anyone to buy all these small sh*tboxes in sufficient number. We all have to get all our friends to buy little efficient happy smiley greenie cars, so we can get our nasty fun GT-R's please!
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That's assuming we can get anyone to buy all these small sh*tboxes in sufficient number. We all have to get all our friends to buy little efficient happy smiley greenie cars, so we can get our nasty fun GT-R's please!
I was surrounded by five of those shitboxes (Prius) on the highway today. I thought to myself, "Damn, who buys a car that looks like a plastic cat sandbox?!"
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doesn't altima already outsell the z and gtr by like 30 fold?
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