2011 Mustang GT... I think I need to re-think my next car

m4a1mustang · 03-31-2010, 12:34 PM

FWIW the Z is a retro design, albeit a more progressive one than the Mustang.

Pharmacist · 03-31-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

FWIW the Z is a retro design, albeit a more progressive one than the Mustang.

the big difference though is that the z borrows styling cues from the old 240z but adds a lot of modern touches to it. the mustang is essentially a carbon copy of the older model, both inside and out. it gives more of an impression of lack of creativity than a tribute to its lineage. the ford gt at least mixed retro with modernity pretty good. speaking of which, that ford gt was a pretty nice car, the only modern ford i would have loved to own one day. too bad they killed it and instead kept making those outdated mustangs. and yes, they are outdated. a solid rear axle has no place whatsoever on a 21st century car. i can tolerate anything and everything else on a car, but that solid axle needs to die, get buried, and never be resurrected again.

m4a1mustang · 03-31-2010, 01:04 PM

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the big difference though is that the z borrows styling cues from the old 240z but adds a lot of modern touches to it. the mustang is essentially a carbon copy of the older model, both inside and out. it gives more of an impression of lack of creativity than a tribute to its lineage. the ford gt at least mixed retro with modernity pretty good. speaking of which, that ford gt was a pretty nice car, the only modern ford i would have loved to own one day. too bad they killed it and instead kept making those outdated mustangs. and yes, they are outdated. a solid rear axle has no place whatsoever on a 21st century car. i can tolerate anything and everything else on a car, but that solid axle needs to die, get buried, and never be resurrected again.

Solid rear axles schmolid rear axle... it gets the job done. Granted they will be going IRS eventually... it's an inevitability. When that day comes, however, I can see a lot of purists (of the drag racing variety) getting pissed off. Though a 2010 Track Pack GT with IRS would no doubt put up better numbers than the current live axle. It's actually scary to think about how good that car would be all around.

I do agree about the styling and how it lacks imagination. I wish they progressed from the 99-04 design instead of going back to 1964.5 and taking that entire design. That said, I do think Ford did a really good job with it, I just wish they had gone a different route.

My biggest gripe has always been the size. The 99-04s were sized right. My 03 GT weighed a little over 3200 lbs and was more comparable in size to a 370 than a 2005+ Mustang. Wish they had kept the dimension (and weight) in smaller.

370Zsteve · 03-31-2010, 01:24 PM

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Solid rear axles schmolid rear axle... it gets the job done. Granted they will be going IRS eventually... it's an inevitability. When that day comes, however, I can see a lot of purists (of the drag racing variety) getting pissed off. Though a 2010 Track Pack GT with IRS would no doubt put up better numbers than the current live axle. It's actually scary to think about how good that car would be all around.

I do agree about the styling and how it lacks imagination. I wish they progressed from the 99-04 design instead of going back to 1964.5 and taking that entire design. That said, I do think Ford did a really good job with it, I just wish they had gone a different route.

My biggest gripe has always been the size. The 99-04s were sized right. My 03 GT weighed a little over 3200 lbs and was more comparable in size to a 370 than a 2005+ Mustang. Wish they had kept the dimension (and weight) in smaller.

They should make the damned cars the same size as the original Mustang. Read: small.

370Zsteve · 03-31-2010, 01:22 PM

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FWIW the Z is a retro design, albeit a more progressive one than the Mustang.

Well it has a retro window, anyway. Not exactly a retro design, more like ultra modern.

Zsteve · 03-31-2010, 01:31 PM

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FWIW the Z is a retro design, albeit a more progressive one than the Mustang.

Yea the outside is but the inside is modern and up to date for the most part. Its like the Camero, I love the outside but hate the inside.

Pharmacist · 03-31-2010, 01:45 PM

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Yea the outside is but the inside is modern and up to date for the most part. Its like the Camero, I love the outside but hate the inside.

ah come on, how can you not love that interior? from the plain bland black dash, to the odd looking silver wings trim on the steering wheel to the two ginormous speed/tach gauges, to the radio/ac controls that look like they were salvaged from a 1960s model car in a junkyard to those 4 ridiculous mini-gauges in front of the shifter that are impossible to see from a normal driving position. what's not to like about the camaro interior?

m4a1mustang · 03-31-2010, 01:16 PM

Damnit I want a Kona Blue Z!!!

LiquidZ · 03-31-2010, 01:30 PM

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Damnit I want a Kona Blue Z!!!

Still thinking about it? haha

m4a1mustang · 03-31-2010, 01:36 PM

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Still thinking about it? haha

It would be great.

m4a1mustang · 03-31-2010, 01:24 PM

Lmao @ retro window.

m4a1mustang · 03-31-2010, 01:34 PM

Well the inside will always suck on any GM.

LiquidZ · 03-31-2010, 01:42 PM

Ok, I feel nostalgic. Here is(was?) mine:

Zsteve · 03-31-2010, 01:43 PM

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Ok, I feel nostalgic. Here is(was?) mine:

For me its the back window that makes me not like the design.

m4a1mustang · 03-31-2010, 02:00 PM

I could never get into Grabber Orange. Competition Orange from '04 was ok. Dunno why theydidnt continue with yellow.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	Well the inside will always suck on any GM. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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LiquidZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 1,940 Drives: Mag. Black 2009 370Z Rep Power: 705	Ok, I feel nostalgic. Here is(was?) mine: __________________

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	I could never get into Grabber Orange. Competition Orange from '04 was ok. Dunno why theydidnt continue with yellow. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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