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Originally Posted by viiv Empirically, the 2020 would be the best. I am not saying that because I own a 2020. I also know that a lot of people here

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Old 07-11-2020, 11:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Empirically, the 2020 would be the best. I am not saying that because I own a 2020. I also know that a lot of people here with earlier model years like to deny this and say that the 2020 is no different than their 2010. However, I have an engineering background and two words; silent updates. That along with process improvements resulting from any decent OQM (Organizational Quality Management) framework which the Japanese are especially famous for. ...
Very interesting.

But those are all very small changes that very few (if any) drivers will notice when behind the wheel. There haven't been any changes made over the years that have actually had a substantial effect on performance. Nothing that I would say makes any particular year better than another. YMMV
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Old 07-11-2020, 09:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Very interesting.

But those are all very small changes that very few (if any) drivers will notice when behind the wheel. There haven't been any changes made over the years that have actually had a substantial effect on performance. Nothing that I would say makes any particular year better than another. YMMV
These silent changes would have an effect though on long term reliability. I talked about sheet metal and high strengh steel. How about the numereous o-rings, gaskets and other seals within the engine for example?

It is very likely that the suppliers have changed the formulations for these components in the last decade, especially to meet the demands of new high compression and forced induction engines. The suppliers even for a car that debuted in 2009, are going to be using 2020 production methods even for a part that is Z specific, with only the molds and tooling being the same, while pouring in the same uprated resin formulation needed for more modern 2020 vehicles that exceeds Nissan's original 2009 requirements. The suppliers would never bother making a batch of resin just for the small run of 370Z that just meets the requirements from a decade ago, that's not cost effective.

While the late model years of the Z are not a different car, they are a more refined car. It's a decade old car, that should, at least in theory if my engineering experience is anything to go by, have partially benefited by 2020 production methods.

Remember, a vehicle is the sum of its parts; I would fully expect all things being equal from new (same climate, driving habits, no collisions, same oil and fluid changes and interval etc...) a 2019 or 2020 model to be a more reliable and 'tighter feeling' vehicle at 100,000... 200,000... etc... miles than a earlier run of the car.
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And they still stick the same chity CMC and CSC in it. Still gets fuel starve too.
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I appreciate the insight. None of those matter for the end user if they don't see it and feel it. Buyers don't care about the sheet metal used. Our special (lol) drive shafts didn't mean much for most. If the metal is too heavy or too weak, and cause bad driving experience, thats it. That's really what drivers cared about. What's the interior like? How does it drive? What creature comfort is there? How fast or slow is the darn thing? That's it. None of us Z owners asked the dealer "what's the rating of the sheet metal used? Its got aluminum panels, ok cool.
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yeah, and those issues aren't fixed through warranty

budget $2k or so for CSC replacement. might as well throw that heavyass flywheel away too and swap in a lightweight one. it changes the car
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What about the lower ECU memory on the newer cars? If I had to replace mine I would be looking for a '12-'17 nismo
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2014 Hands down.. Looks different than all the others
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2014 Hands down.. Looks different than all the others
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