Shifter Vibration/ Shift knob vibration

MightyBobo · 01-13-2010, 12:42 PM

I'm failing to see the sarcasm...or are you trying to imply that keeping your hand on the shifter during spirited driving is perfectly safe and that we're simply over obsessing? Because if that's the case...well hey...its your transmission, and if you want to be Mr. Joecool Onehander-ondawheel, well you have at it!

IDZRVIT · 01-13-2010, 03:21 PM

You won't screw up your syncros by holding the gearshift knob. Where do you get this from?

MightyBobo · 01-13-2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by IDZRVIT

You won't screw up your syncros by holding the gearshift knob. Where do you get this from?

Do something for me. While you are giving your car gas, why don't you imagine you decide to take a hard corner and you're using your hand on the knob to support your weight in a corner. Now, "accidentally" pull the car out of gear and try to push it back in without clutching. You might hear some funny noises...that's what I'm getting at...

JakeZ34 · 01-13-2010, 04:03 PM

Ask any professional drivers if they drive just with one hand on the wheel. But again it's my 2 cents that you shouldn't leave your hands on the shifter because your constantly applying pressure on it. And I don't know about the b&m. But there is another brand out there the A something that doesn't require filing for reverse gear. I read that there is no rattle with that model.

DirtyDave · 01-13-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeZ34

Ask any professional drivers if they drive just with one hand on the wheel. But again it's my 2 cents that you shouldn't leave your hands on the shifter because your constantly applying pressure on it. And I don't know about the b&m. But there is another brand out there the A something that doesn't require filing for reverse gear. I read that there is no rattle with that model.

I think you're referring to the AMS. I have one and it does rattle on higher rpms just like the B&M.

And for what it's worth +1 for the guys saying it will screw up your synchros over time. I heard this from an instructor at a high performance driving school in regard to Corvettes.

BlackCherryZ · 01-13-2010, 07:56 PM

well, the original intention was to find a solution about the problem

so, i guess so far, only AMS short shifter is only viable solution, right?

does it get rid of vibrations on the low rpm?

can i get more info on this?

as far as holding on to the shifer, it is just a habit..... not intended to mess up synchro.... am i the only odd-ball out there?

i do not think putting mind hand over the shifter would put any weight/pressure on it....

i am not pushing it or pulling on it.... just my right hand is on the top...

or even, my thumb is on the top......

well, i never had a problem putting my hand or thumb on the shifter......

armensti · 01-15-2010, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCherryZ

well, the original intention was to find a solution about the problem

so, i guess so far, only AMS short shifter is only viable solution, right?

does it get rid of vibrations on the low rpm?

can i get more info on this?

as far as holding on to the shifer, it is just a habit..... not intended to mess up synchro.... am i the only odd-ball out there?

i do not think putting mind hand over the shifter would put any weight/pressure on it....

i am not pushing it or pulling on it.... just my right hand is on the top...

or even, my thumb is on the top......

well, i never had a problem putting my hand or thumb on the shifter......

yeah its a habit for me too but i dont apply pressure on it either. usually my hand is on it but only the thumb or if im grabbing the shifter i dont really apply a lot of presure to it. i dont think that will really do anything unless your moving it around when its in gear or if your constantly pushing down on it.

MightyBobo · 01-13-2010, 08:12 PM

Im not saying everyone drives like a nut and its guaranteed to f your syncros up, FWIW - Im just saying, its not worth the risk for me heh.

theDreamer · 01-14-2010, 09:45 PM

AMS will be just like stock but it has an adjustable height to create a shorter shift.
B&M removes a lot of the rubber/filler material which will create a more mechanical shift "feel."

Neither is going to solve any vibration, that just comes with the car. Both of these short shifters will amplify that vibration at different RPMs and maybe even make a slight noise. Before jumping over to a new shifter, think about changing out the shift knob first.

m4a1mustang · 01-15-2010, 06:20 AM

This thread is ridiculous.

The shifter is directly mounted to the transmission, which is directly mounted to the engine. Both of these mechanical wonders have lots of bits and pieces that spin and turn and spit fire and what not. When bits and pieces spin and turn and spit fire, they vibrate.

If you connect something to something that vibrates, it will vibrate, too. Common sense!

Modshack · 01-15-2010, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

This thread is ridiculous.

The shifter is directly mounted to the transmission, which is directly mounted to the engine. Both of these mechanical wonders have lots of bits and pieces that spin and turn and spit fire and what not. When bits and pieces spin and turn and spit fire, they vibrate.

If you connect something to something that vibrates, it will vibrate, too. Common sense!

...and the VQ37 engine is not exactly the smoothest to begin with..

Daishi · 01-15-2010, 09:45 AM

the shifter vibrating is more jdm anyway so dont worry about it lol.

BlackCherryZ · 01-15-2010, 02:10 PM

well, i am getting used to it.............. if i cant change it, why not love it....

another question is if i were to change the shift knob, would it vibrate more?

more than OEM shift knob or about the same?

anyone with just the shift knob upgrade?

TARDCORE · 01-15-2010, 10:57 PM

yeah dude honestly I can't stress enough to test drive the car quite a bit before you drive it. I test drove the Z 3 seperate times while testing other cars as well. I like the feel of being able to feel the hammers engage the next gear but I hate the "clunky" response as it feels like I am destroying my gears. But for the record, I messed up my 3rd gear synchros on my RSXS because I was holding the shifter knob while driving and too many times did I pull it out of gear before the clutch fully stopped the fly wheel. Eventually what began to happenb was when I was carefull with 3rd, it would "pop" out of place with the slightest pressure on the shifter as the clutch was fully engaged. Not to mention that Hondas have bad manual tranny synchros anyway.

Slynky · 01-15-2010, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TARDCORE

yeah dude honestly I can't stress enough to test drive the car quite a bit before you drive it. I test drove the Z 3 seperate times while testing other cars as well. I like the feel of being able to feel the hammers engage the next gear but I hate the "clunky" response as it feels like I am destroying my gears. But for the record, I messed up my 3rd gear synchros on my RSXS because I was holding the shifter knob while driving and too many times did I pull it out of gear before the clutch fully stopped the fly wheel. Eventually what began to happenb was when I was carefull with 3rd, it would "pop" out of place with the slightest pressure on the shifter as the clutch was fully engaged. Not to mention that Hondas have bad manual tranny synchros anyway.

Maybe I've been under the wrong impression in my 40+ years of driving. But are you saying the clutch somehow stops the flywheel from rotating? I thought the flywheel was attached to the engine/crankshaft and if the engine was turning, the IT was turning. Pressing the clutch merely (in simplistic terms) separates the spinning flywheel from the rest of the drivetrain so you can, for instance, change to a different gear and then when that's done, you release the clutch allowing the pressure plate/clutch to again make contact with the spinning flywheel.

Have I been mistaken all these years?

01-13-2010, 12:42 PM	#1 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 53	I'm failing to see the sarcasm...or are you trying to imply that keeping your hand on the shifter during spirited driving is perfectly safe and that we're simply over obsessing? Because if that's the case...well hey...its your transmission, and if you want to be Mr. Joecool Onehander-ondawheel, well you have at it! __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

01-13-2010, 03:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
IDZRVIT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Halifax Posts: 1,659 Drives: '13 CTS-V, '76 Vette Rep Power: 28	You won't screw up your syncros by holding the gearshift knob. Where do you get this from? __________________ "America.... still builds rockets!" Vette: 355 cid, 400 rwhp '13 CTS-V Coupe: 6.2L LSA, 556HP

01-13-2010, 08:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 53	Im not saying everyone drives like a nut and its guaranteed to f your syncros up, FWIW - Im just saying, its not worth the risk for me heh. __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

01-14-2010, 09:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4211	AMS will be just like stock but it has an adjustable height to create a shorter shift. B&M removes a lot of the rubber/filler material which will create a more mechanical shift "feel." Neither is going to solve any vibration, that just comes with the car. Both of these short shifters will amplify that vibration at different RPMs and maybe even make a slight noise. Before jumping over to a new shifter, think about changing out the shift knob first. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

01-15-2010, 06:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6963	This thread is ridiculous. The shifter is directly mounted to the transmission, which is directly mounted to the engine. Both of these mechanical wonders have lots of bits and pieces that spin and turn and spit fire and what not. When bits and pieces spin and turn and spit fire, they vibrate. If you connect something to something that vibrates, it will vibrate, too. Common sense! __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

01-13-2010, 04:03 PM	#4 (permalink)
JakeZ34 Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 436 Drives: BS 370z 6MT/sprt pkg Rep Power: 198	Ask any professional drivers if they drive just with one hand on the wheel. But again it's my 2 cents that you shouldn't leave your hands on the shifter because your constantly applying pressure on it. And I don't know about the b&m. But there is another brand out there the A something that doesn't require filing for reverse gear. I read that there is no rattle with that model.

01-13-2010, 07:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
BlackCherryZ Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 183 Drives: 2010 BC-Z M6 Rep Power: 16	well, the original intention was to find a solution about the problem so, i guess so far, only AMS short shifter is only viable solution, right? does it get rid of vibrations on the low rpm? can i get more info on this? as far as holding on to the shifer, it is just a habit..... not intended to mess up synchro.... am i the only odd-ball out there? i do not think putting mind hand over the shifter would put any weight/pressure on it.... i am not pushing it or pulling on it.... just my right hand is on the top... or even, my thumb is on the top...... well, i never had a problem putting my hand or thumb on the shifter......

01-15-2010, 09:45 AM	#12 (permalink)
Daishi Track Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NJ Posts: 683 Drives: 09 370z 6Speed Rep Power: 17	the shifter vibrating is more jdm anyway so dont worry about it lol.

01-15-2010, 02:10 PM	#13 (permalink)
BlackCherryZ Base Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 183 Drives: 2010 BC-Z M6 Rep Power: 16	well, i am getting used to it.............. if i cant change it, why not love it.... another question is if i were to change the shift knob, would it vibrate more? more than OEM shift knob or about the same? anyone with just the shift knob upgrade?

01-15-2010, 10:57 PM	#14 (permalink)
TARDCORE Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 410 Drives: 2010 Solid Red 370Z Rep Power: 16	yeah dude honestly I can't stress enough to test drive the car quite a bit before you drive it. I test drove the Z 3 seperate times while testing other cars as well. I like the feel of being able to feel the hammers engage the next gear but I hate the "clunky" response as it feels like I am destroying my gears. But for the record, I messed up my 3rd gear synchros on my RSXS because I was holding the shifter knob while driving and too many times did I pull it out of gear before the clutch fully stopped the fly wheel. Eventually what began to happenb was when I was carefull with 3rd, it would "pop" out of place with the slightest pressure on the shifter as the clutch was fully engaged. Not to mention that Hondas have bad manual tranny synchros anyway. __________________ XBL:EVENTYDE

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