2nd Page of the Instructions of Installing...

PapoZalsa · 12-28-2009, 08:24 PM

I know this topic probably has been beaten up. However everyone has forgot to mention the following page (9-14) of " Installing Front License Plate" in the Technical and consumer information. Every one just posted page 9-13 of the instructions which ends in page 9-14.

When I posted my pics of what I found underneath the plate bracket of my car no one mention this on the thread. After fighting with the dealer about these two holes on the bumper they explain why.

The Nissan Co. fucktards writes on page 9-14. "Mark the center of the hole (D) on both sides with a felt-tip pen. Remove the bracket from the bumper, and then open 0.9 to 1.0 inch (22mm to 25mm) diameter holes on the bumper using the marks (D) as a center."

Now according to the Store and Service Manager this is a procedure (pre-delivery) done to all the 370Z in States where front license plate is required. So 95% of all the 370 with front license plates have this holes unless you told the dealer not to.

Hope this save someone from going thru all the anger that I been thru.

370Zsteve · 12-28-2009, 08:27 PM

Modshack · 12-28-2009, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Now according to the Store and Service Manager this is a procedure (pre-delivery) done to all the 370Z in States where front license plate is required. So 95% of all the 370 with front license plates have this holes unless you told the dealer not to.

Hope this save someone from going thru all the anger that I been thru.

He's just covering his a$$. (most) dealers, even in License plate states, are smarter than that...

Edit: I should have said "Most dealers arent that STUPID". The bracket can be easily attached using just the two holes in the black trim area (which can easily be plugged.)

mkdiehl · 12-28-2009, 08:37 PM

Just picked up my 2010 this weekend. We (Colorado) need a front license plate. I didn't get one when I picked up the car and emailed them about it today. However, there are no holes in the front of my car......not to make you more mad....

MightyBobo · 12-28-2009, 08:43 PM

He's lying. Mine didnt have those holes.

PapoZalsa · 12-28-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Modshack

He's just covering his a$$. (most) dealers, even in License plate states, are smarter than that...

That is what I told both of them, I told them that anyone with a half of brain would ask the customer about the holes or get a shorter bolt so it doesn't scrap the bumper.

However I'm calling the General Manager of the dealer and will write Nissan Co. about there stupid instructions write up.

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

He's lying. Mine didnt have those holes.

Even if that is the case the freaking instructions says to do the holes.

azn370z · 12-28-2009, 08:52 PM

If you read the manual it says on page 9-14 to drill those big holes. But what is the purpose of those big holes? I told my dealer to not put on my front plates.

PapoZalsa · 12-28-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by azn370z

But what is the purpose of those big holes?

"So the bracket plate sits flush against the bumper", because the bolts are like 1/16 inch longer...which is totally BS.

Modshack · 12-28-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by PapoZalsa

Even if that is the case the freaking instructions says to do the holes.

Common sense should overide stupid instructions, but if they have a young inexperienced guy doing the get-ready (usually the case) this is what you get.....

chibbell · 12-28-2009, 09:49 PM

When I took delivery the dealer asked if I wanted them installed. I couldn't have said, "No!" quicker.

OR requires them but I haven't had any issues so far.

I know that doesn't really help you but I was annoyed when I saw that comment from your dealer about "95%."

PapoZalsa · 12-28-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chibbell

When I took delivery the dealer asked if I wanted them installed. I couldn't have said, "No!" quicker.

OR requires them but I haven't had any issues so far.

I know that doesn't really help you but I was annoyed when I saw that comment from your dealer about "95%."

Well, that is a wild guess because of the states with front license plate. However I bet many owners have not check behind the license plate bracket.

speedworks · 12-28-2009, 11:35 PM

It wouldn't suprise me that is says to do that. I have a front plate (required in my state), and after 1 year, I have two holes there because of the screws that hold the plate on - unfortunately, but realistically, they are too long, and stick into the bumper - not sure if this only happens when the wind pressure pushes the plate back or not, but if I look behind my plate, there are two screws jutting into the bumper into about that area where those holes are. If I ever move to another state, I would have to keep a plate on just to hide the marks. Another small mistake by Nissan.

MightyBobo · 12-28-2009, 11:40 PM

They scratch when you or the dealer puts the plate on, and puts pressure on the bracket/screw as you turn it. Bends the bracket twords the paint, and gouges it.

Josh@STILLEN · 12-29-2009, 12:19 AM

It is frustrating, but in the standard delivery protocol.. but usually asking for this not to happen works, especially on a new vehicle. When I took delivery of my G35 I was seconds away from someone drilling, despite repeated mentions.

A good 'fix' for this is BumperPlugs.com.. but not better than not having them.

Some dealerships have swapped fascias for others on the lot when pushed hard..

For states needing plates, like California, we have the License Plate Brackets that work with the factory tow hooks, and easily removable: STILLEN : STILLEN Front License Plate Bracket

Forrest · 12-29-2009, 01:19 AM

I live and bought my car in CALI, which requires front plates. North Bay Nissan in Petaluma never puts plates in. I would be mad if i had huge holes in mine like that.

12-28-2009, 08:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
PapoZalsa A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Not in Sunny Florida Posts: 6,358 Drives: 16 Nismo w/Tech Pack Rep Power: 4499	2nd Page of the Instructions of Installing... I know this topic probably has been beaten up. However everyone has forgot to mention the following page (9-14) of " Installing Front License Plate" in the Technical and consumer information. Every one just posted page 9-13 of the instructions which ends in page 9-14. When I posted my pics of what I found underneath the plate bracket of my car no one mention this on the thread. After fighting with the dealer about these two holes on the bumper they explain why. The Nissan Co. fucktards writes on page 9-14. "Mark the center of the hole (D) on both sides with a felt-tip pen. Remove the bracket from the bumper, and then open 0.9 to 1.0 inch (22mm to 25mm) diameter holes on the bumper using the marks (D) as a center." Now according to the Store and Service Manager this is a procedure (pre-delivery) done to all the 370Z in States where front license plate is required. So 95% of all the 370 with front license plates have this holes unless you told the dealer not to. Hope this save someone from going thru all the anger that I been thru. __________________ 2009 370Z MB Base w/Sport Package 6MT Modshack's Custom Air Intakes /3M Clear Bra/ Illuminated Kick Plates / F. I CBE w/12" resonators / EVO-R Front Lip / Rear Hatch Wing / Tein S-Tech Springs /Ilegal Tint in the Rep. of VA/4x20mm Z1 Spacers/ Vinyl Roof/Liquid Carbon Designs

12-28-2009, 08:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
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12-28-2009, 08:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 52	He's lying. Mine didnt have those holes. __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

12-28-2009, 08:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
azn370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,722 Drives: z34 - R1 Rep Power: 489	If you read the manual it says on page 9-14 to drill those big holes. But what is the purpose of those big holes? I told my dealer to not put on my front plates. __________________ 2010 k23 H&R sport springs / Spc rear camber arms / SSR SP1 / Berk cbe / Varis cf lip / Nismo S-Tune side skirts

12-28-2009, 11:40 PM	#13 (permalink)
MightyBobo A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 8,465 Drives: No cars; only bikes Rep Power: 52	They scratch when you or the dealer puts the plate on, and puts pressure on the bracket/screw as you turn it. Bends the bracket twords the paint, and gouges it. __________________ I don't own a car anymore.

12-28-2009, 08:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
mkdiehl Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Denver Posts: 30 Drives: '10 PG/Persm 370z Rep Power: 16	Just picked up my 2010 this weekend. We (Colorado) need a front license plate. I didn't get one when I picked up the car and emailed them about it today. However, there are no holes in the front of my car......not to make you more mad....

12-28-2009, 09:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
chibbell Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Portland, OR Age: 44 Posts: 65 Drives: 370z Touring Sport Rep Power: 16	When I took delivery the dealer asked if I wanted them installed. I couldn't have said, "No!" quicker. OR requires them but I haven't had any issues so far. I know that doesn't really help you but I was annoyed when I saw that comment from your dealer about "95%."

12-28-2009, 11:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
speedworks Track Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 550 Drives: PW purchased 01/09 Rep Power: 17	It wouldn't suprise me that is says to do that. I have a front plate (required in my state), and after 1 year, I have two holes there because of the screws that hold the plate on - unfortunately, but realistically, they are too long, and stick into the bumper - not sure if this only happens when the wind pressure pushes the plate back or not, but if I look behind my plate, there are two screws jutting into the bumper into about that area where those holes are. If I ever move to another state, I would have to keep a plate on just to hide the marks. Another small mistake by Nissan.

12-29-2009, 12:19 AM	#14 (permalink)
Josh@STILLEN The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Costa Mesa, CA Posts: 1,197 Drives: 2004 G35 Coupe 6MT Rep Power: 533	It is frustrating, but in the standard delivery protocol.. but usually asking for this not to happen works, especially on a new vehicle. When I took delivery of my G35 I was seconds away from someone drilling, despite repeated mentions. A good 'fix' for this is BumperPlugs.com.. but not better than not having them. Some dealerships have swapped fascias for others on the lot when pushed hard.. For states needing plates, like California, we have the License Plate Brackets that work with the factory tow hooks, and easily removable: STILLEN : STILLEN Front License Plate Bracket

12-29-2009, 01:19 AM	#15 (permalink)
Forrest Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: california 707! Posts: 677 Drives: 09 370z Blk 6mt sprt Rep Power: 258	I live and bought my car in CALI, which requires front plates. North Bay Nissan in Petaluma never puts plates in. I would be mad if i had huge holes in mine like that. __________________ my pictures http://www.the370z.com/members/forrest-albums-370z.html

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