This Soon To Be GT3 Killer Is Everything A New Z Owner Should Be Excited About!

370Zsteve · 12-18-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JonBoy

Well, while I disagree on the looks, that's certainly subjective. I do believe 99% of the population also disagree with you, however.

As for the engine being in the worst possible location, no, that would be at the extreme FRONT end of the car where it would hinder cornering AND traction in a RWD car (understeer city with tons of wheelspin when accelerating).

More to the point, proper engineering has allowed Porsche to almost fully tame the 911 in terms of snap oversteer. I've actually been in a GT3 and it's nowhere near as unforgiving as a 968 or 993 and the cornering limits are astonishing.

I can't imagine what a car would handle like with an engine in the extreme front, lol, wow. I stand by my statement. There is a reason this is the only car on the planet short of a Mexican Beetle that has an engine in this location. The proper engineering you refer to is an expensive band-aid. The Cayman is a much better-handling automobile. The only reason this car exists is to satisfy a hard-core fanboi-base. If you lift off the throttle mid-corner, yes it is better than a 968, but you can't engineer out all that weight wanting to turn the car 180 degrees. Simple physics.

wishihadnav · 12-18-2009, 12:41 PM

calmate. I lol'd.

wishihadnav · 12-18-2009, 01:10 PM

i cant believe we are comparing these two...hahah!

kenchan · 12-18-2009, 01:47 PM

yah, they need to try beating a real sports car without making it look like some rice-mobile...

BLUESLATE · 12-19-2009, 03:17 AM

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footwork & chassis zeal front 14kg x-coilovers with mcr function a shock absorbers; zeal rear x-coilovers 18kg with mcr function a shock absorbers

brakes endless 6-piston monocoque front calipers with 370mm rotors and rear pads

i want... Nowwwww!!!!

m4a1mustang · 12-19-2009, 12:06 PM

When I say rice, I say rice whereby rice = tacky.

It looks tacky. My opinion. That's it.

And I grew up in Japan so spare me the nonsense about not respecting JDM.

spearfish25 · 12-20-2009, 07:37 PM

If they'd just paint the whole car red instead of having all the off color pieces, it would look more legit.

motoextreme · 12-21-2009, 09:56 PM

That was an interesting read...

I've driven a GT3, you think the Nismo is a bad street car that GT3 is a skateboard! Bumpy as all hell, loud as can be but still a bad *** car just the same. Comparing a 30-40K car to a 115K car just doesnt add up.

Regardless of what car you prefer, I would much rather take that 115K and buy a Touring Z and a track Z. Plus have $ to fix them both up.

We had an older Turbo (02 996TT). It was a WONDERFUL car and as much as I love my Z, you can't compare. But again...we're talking about MUCH more $$$$ and when my warranty expired terribly pricey to keep up.

If things go well, I'd like to have both but it wouldnt be a GT3, that's a rich mans track car and definitely not a fun daily driver. Just my 2 cents..

Pharmacist · 12-22-2009, 12:20 PM

why does the gt3 always come up as the top of the line ultimate porsche? the gt2 has more power, and posts faster laptimes yet no one ever mentions it?

theDreamer · 12-22-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharmacist

why does the gt3 always come up as the top of the line ultimate porsche? the gt2 has more power, and posts faster laptimes yet no one ever mentions it?

I would rather have a NA car then a turbo car.

motoextreme · 12-22-2009, 01:30 PM

You're right but that's REALLY in a different league, that's another $50K or so isn't it?

Pharmacist · 12-22-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by theDreamer

I would rather have a NA car then a turbo car.

why? some of the fastest cars out there are turbo. besides, comparisons almost always include cars like sti, evo, gtr, amg cars which are turbo/super, but only include the 911 gt3 and not the gt2?

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ou're right but that's REALLY in a different league, that's another $50K or so isn't it?

True, but comparison tests usually compare the "ultimate" or top of the line of each company, regardless of price tag. that's why the same test can feature cars from the zr1, viper, gtr, 911 turbo, all the way up to ferrari 430, murcielago, sl65 black series, etc.....

i know people favor the gt3 over gt2 because its easier to drive consistently on a track while the gt2 needs a lot more driver skill to go fast. but same can be said about the zr1 yet it pops out in almost every comparison test.

theDreamer · 12-22-2009, 07:15 PM

Different idea of what people want, I like turbo/superchargers but at the end of the day, a NA car is just so sweet. Balance of torque & HP without the need of turbo/supercharger is what I love.

LETSGOEERS06 · 12-23-2009, 10:10 AM

Well you can think of it this way... at least they are trying to compete with a GT3 it could be worse at least the Z has people very excited about the idea of competing on that echelon. You could drive a scion XB and need to hevily mod it to beat a stock civic ex... Most costom shops love the nissan cars over in japan and that it why tehy are so excited over this one. I personally think that if any prestigeous car company like MCR and others that you see in every zine are looking at the car you drive thats a good idea that the car you drive is okay... i am very envious of everyone I want my z so bad!

motoextreme · 12-23-2009, 12:35 PM

I'm going to prove a point

I'm building my own GT3 Killer and its going to cost me $60K

Who has a GT3 that wants to race me in about 6 months when its done?

HAHAHAHAHAHA...kidding......sort of!!!!

12-19-2009, 12:06 PM	#6 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	When I say rice, I say rice whereby rice = tacky. It looks tacky. My opinion. That's it. And I grew up in Japan so spare me the nonsense about not respecting JDM. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

12-20-2009, 07:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
spearfish25 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Naples, FL Posts: 4,117 Drives: to work Rep Power: 1858	If they'd just paint the whole car red instead of having all the off color pieces, it would look more legit. __________________ 2013 Cadillac V-Wagon, RIP Z

12-21-2009, 09:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
motoextreme Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 971 Drives: Nismo NO MODS! Rep Power: 370	That was an interesting read... I've driven a GT3, you think the Nismo is a bad street car that GT3 is a skateboard! Bumpy as all hell, loud as can be but still a bad * car just the same. Comparing a 30-40K car to a 115K car just doesnt add up. Regardless of what car you prefer, I would much rather take that 115K and buy a Touring Z and a track Z. Plus have $ to fix them both up. We had an older Turbo (02 996TT). It was a WONDERFUL car and as much as I love my Z, you can't compare. But again...we're talking about MUCH more $$$$ and when my warranty expired terribly pricey to keep up. If things go well, I'd like to have both but it wouldnt be a GT3, that's a rich mans track car and definitely not a fun daily driver. Just my 2 cents.. __________________ Fast Intensions / NST / Mishimoto / Alpine / JDM / Volk / Brembo / Rotora / Seibon / Stillen / Password: JDM / KW / MR Works / RAW / Sun Auto / B&M / Amplified Motorsports**

12-22-2009, 01:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
motoextreme Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 971 Drives: Nismo NO MODS! Rep Power: 370	You're right but that's REALLY in a different league, that's another $50K or so isn't it? __________________ Fast Intensions / NST / Mishimoto / Alpine / JDM / Volk / Brembo / Rotora / Seibon / Stillen / Password: JDM / KW / MR Works / RAW / Sun Auto / B&M / Amplified Motorsports

12-22-2009, 07:15 PM	#13 (permalink)
theDreamer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 30,879 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 4212	Different idea of what people want, I like turbo/superchargers but at the end of the day, a NA car is just so sweet. Balance of torque & HP without the need of turbo/supercharger is what I love. __________________ theDreamer's Z // Fast Intentions // Uprev // GTM // HKS // TEIN theDreamer's Silvia // URAS // GREDDY Houston Zs // Facebook // Twitter // Instagram

12-18-2009, 12:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 185	calmate. I lol'd.

12-18-2009, 01:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
wishihadnav A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 90090 Posts: 1,851 Drives: Force Fed Nismo Rep Power: 185	i cant believe we are comparing these two...hahah!

12-18-2009, 01:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
kenchan A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: N/A Posts: 76,801 Drives: N/A Rep Power: 141522	yah, they need to try beating a real sports car without making it look like some rice-mobile...

12-22-2009, 12:20 PM	#9 (permalink)
Pharmacist A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,249 Drives: 09 370z Sport 6MT Rep Power: 20	why does the gt3 always come up as the top of the line ultimate porsche? the gt2 has more power, and posts faster laptimes yet no one ever mentions it?

12-23-2009, 10:10 AM	#14 (permalink)
LETSGOEERS06 Base Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Morgantown,WV Age: 41 Posts: 116 Drives: 06 Jeep GC Overland Rep Power: 18	Well you can think of it this way... at least they are trying to compete with a GT3 it could be worse at least the Z has people very excited about the idea of competing on that echelon. You could drive a scion XB and need to hevily mod it to beat a stock civic ex... Most costom shops love the nissan cars over in japan and that it why tehy are so excited over this one. I personally think that if any prestigeous car company like MCR and others that you see in every zine are looking at the car you drive thats a good idea that the car you drive is okay... i am very envious of everyone I want my z so bad! __________________ 2006 Grand Cherokee Overland Whats the worst thing about loosing to a 5000lb SUV Having to tell your friends what just handed you your a$$ - SRT8 Last edited by LETSGOEERS06; 12-23-2009 at 10:13 AM.

12-23-2009, 12:35 PM	#15 (permalink)
motoextreme Track Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 971 Drives: Nismo NO MODS! Rep Power: 370	I'm going to prove a point I'm building my own GT3 Killer and its going to cost me $60K Who has a GT3 that wants to race me in about 6 months when its done? HAHAHAHAHAHA...kidding......sort of!!!! __________________ Fast Intensions / NST / Mishimoto / Alpine / JDM / Volk / Brembo / Rotora / Seibon / Stillen / Password: JDM / KW / MR Works / RAW / Sun Auto / B&M / Amplified Motorsports

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