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First off, Welcome to the Z life!!! you can check out my mods in the youtube link in my signature but I have heavily modded my car and carry a
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First off, Welcome to the Z life!!!
you can check out my mods in the youtube link in my signature but I have heavily modded my car and carry a lot of track experience with it. I was in your same position when debating what one to buy and I need to say that after my full experience I would only consider the nismo model if I was a mid life crisis guy that wanted something sporty and nice looking with no intentions of modifying it. The only thing your getting with Nismo is a name IMP... there are much better aftermarket parts available at a fraction of the price. Nissan is attempting to advertise the NISMO name as a race grade product but it really just isn't, infact when I ran the nismo suspension for 3 races last year, I ended up taking it out and putting in the base model suspension because I found it handled better. as for the extra 20 HP or so that comes with the NISMO, you can literally spend $900 on your exhaust and gain that HP back. spend another $800 or so on an up rev tune and your pushing more hp then the NISMO at a fraction of the price. If you like the red body skirting and the stiffer street ride then go with the NISMO, but if you don't want to waste money, buy a sport model and put $1500 - $2000 into the car and it will be better then any stock NISMO on the road. Hope this helps!
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This is very much dependent on tires and tire size. The Nismo suspension in most cases will and can handle stickier tires better. For normal tires it may actually make it feel worse like you said.
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To put it in perspective, the tires I run are the same tires that Porsche puts on the GT4 race cars out of the box. They are very sticky
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They are not race grade tires. Extremes can handle more than 10k miles on and off the track certainly with a uprated sizes. I was able to get over 15k miles on my RS3's on my heavier G37 and over 20k miles on my Direzza ZIIs on my VW R32, and that was even on a undersized tire for the weight of the car and significant abuse on and off the track. Both of these tires can out handle PSS's as well as last just as long with better heat control. I don't know what size tire you use, but i assure you they do not stack up to the latest offerings in the extreme class of tires. And yes, i have used the PSS on my car before. On the R32, and the ZII's and BF rivals out handled them immensely. Last edited by MaysEffect; 09-14-2017 at 11:49 PM. |
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I indicated in my post they are mid level race rated tires. Your comparing my tires to extreme track use tires. I completely agree with you that any track rated tire will our perform a PSS. I never stated any wear that the PSS were hard core track ready tires, I compared them to being decent enough to be considered by Porsche as the tire they send there gt4 race spec cars off the lot on that can handle street and track use.
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My original point was about how the nismo suspension can handle tires with higher traction limits. Such as an extreme or competition tires. |
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That's debatable. Other than opinion, I haven't seen much data that supports the Nismo as a better handler/posts better track times. They're about equal for the most part. Yes the Nismo is firmer sprung, but that doesn't equate to better handling. Suspension aside, the Nismo does have additional chassis bracing which will help the car feel more solid.
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