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Originally Posted by Cranberry I run Michelin super sport tires, these are mid level race grade tires before going to compound that is so soft you get less then 2000

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Old 09-14-2017, 08:57 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I run Michelin super sport tires, these are mid level race grade tires before going to compound that is so soft you get less then 2000 km to a set.

To put it in perspective, the tires I run are the same tires that Porsche puts on the GT4 race cars out of the box. They are very sticky
I'll have to disagree* earnestly. The PSS are not even remotely the same as cup 2's or even extreme tires for that matter. They lack the tread block rigidity and overall sidewall support as tires of race compounds. They may be good, but they are not comparable to Cup 2's or something in the Extreme category such as the ZII's, BF rivals or RE71's.

They are not race grade tires. Extremes can handle more than 10k miles on and off the track certainly with a uprated sizes. I was able to get over 15k miles on my RS3's on my heavier G37 and over 20k miles on my Direzza ZIIs on my VW R32, and that was even on a undersized tire for the weight of the car and significant abuse on and off the track. Both of these tires can out handle PSS's as well as last just as long with better heat control.

I don't know what size tire you use, but i assure you they do not stack up to the latest offerings in the extreme class of tires. And yes, i have used the PSS on my car before. On the R32, and the ZII's and BF rivals out handled them immensely.
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I chose my 2010 touring/sport/nav over the Nismo because of the base model interior and the ugly wing at that time. However, Nissan finally got it together for the 15+ Nismo. In my opinion, if you're looking at a 15+, I would get the Nismo with tech. The 15+ Nismo looks great and finally has the touring/nav interior. Great combo if you ask me.
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my thought exactly....

I too have the same car as yours (6MT).

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I chose my 2010 touring/sport/nav over the Nismo because of the base model interior and the ugly wing at that time. However, Nissan finally got it together for the 15+ Nismo. In my opinion, if you're looking at a 15+, I would get the Nismo with tech. The 15+ Nismo looks great and finally has the touring/nav interior. Great combo if you ask me.
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I bought a '12 Nismo. As far as I'm concerned, buying anything less is selling yourself short. As a previous poster already said, the Nismo essentially has all the aftermarket goodies you'd want already equipped. It looks 10x better than the base and sport packages. Upgrade the stereo, put good rubber on it, and enjoy it. For someone like myself who likes to modify stuff, buying the Nismo saved me time and effort. I can just drive the car. Only my opinion, but if you like the looks and the mods, just spend the cash up front.
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I bought a '12 Nismo. As far as I'm concerned, buying anything less is selling yourself short. As a previous poster already said, the Nismo essentially has all the aftermarket goodies you'd want already equipped. It looks 10x better than the base and sport packages. Upgrade the stereo, put good rubber on it, and enjoy it. For someone like myself who likes to modify stuff, buying the Nismo saved me time and effort. I can just drive the car. Only my opinion, but if you like the looks and the mods, just spend the cash up front.

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Had a 350z for 6 years up until this August which i heavily modified. Tried the 370z sport and Nismo and purchased the Nismo. If you want the best then go Nismo. I use it as a daily driver here in the UK and have done many 3/4 hour driving trips in it without any issues from the seats. In fact i have to say i can sit in them for hours and not feel uncomfortable or fatigued when stepping out. I am only 5ft 5 ins tall though.
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Buy a used 1 year old nismo with less than 8k miles on it for $33,000 out the door.

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He is right about the Nismo suspension. Put the right set of tires on the car and it is very neutral. Most folks can't drive them with good tires to their limit. One guy on here can, but he has a BRZ now. He drove my car on the dragon and the only upgrades it had were RE11 tires and Z1 2 piece rotors with XP8 carbotech pads. He could slither my car around a turn. Unfortunately, he slowed down because I was turning white from the 2 herniated disks in my neck (Painful). I stuck my car in a turn today and it had way more to go, My neck let me know not to go any further even though I have had one disk fixed. Looks like track days are out for a little while longer.
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I'm thinking about replacing my suspension on my corolla with steel rods to firm it up. Should be able to handle cup2s pretty well on the canyons!
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I've never driven a nismo, but I'd be curious to see the actual differences in the bracing of the frame with it all stripped down. Is it just stitch welded or what?

I dont think I'd pay the premium for the nismo. You could get a sport and with the extra money add sways, RE-11's or comparable tire, oil cooler, and something like XR3 or AST coils and have a great handling car. Guess it depends on what you plan to do with it and how much you want to tinker.
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I considered the NISMO but the long front end scared me away from it. Figured I'd be scraping it every morning entering the company parking lot. Here's the way I see it.
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Swaybar________Stiffer than sport__________Aftermarket is stiffer than NISMO
Wheels_________1/2" wider than sport
Tires___________Can go wider than sport
Body Braces_____More than sport___________Not sure if it's for body or handling
Spring Rate_____Higher than sport__________ Better for track than street
Dampening______More than sport__________ Better for track than street
Brake Calipers____Same as sport
Brake Pads______Stock NISMO pads better_________Easy to swap pads for better ones
Body Kit________Looks way better
Seats_________The new recaros are really nice!
Interior________Lots of NISMO badges!
VLSD__________Same POS as Sport
HP____________+18HP for NISMO__________Exh Upgrade or CAI on sport can equal
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