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Originally Posted by analogman 1) Is the Nismo worth the price premium over a Sport? Whether it's new or used, it seems a Nismo is about $8,000 more than a

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Old 09-13-2017, 10:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1) Is the Nismo worth the price premium over a Sport? Whether it's new or used, it seems a Nismo is about $8,000 more than a Sport. I like the Nismo better and can afford it, but don't like to make a habit of spending money unnecessarily. On 'paper', the Sport looks to be about 90% of the Nismo. I've driven both, but would appreciate the thoughts of those that have had more seat time as to whether or not it's worth the price premium.

2) For those with Nismo's, how comfortable are the Recaro seats to live with on longer drives? I've taken a couple of test drives in a Nismo for about 20 minutes. They feel fine to me for that time, but things can be different for a multi-hour drive. The car won't be my daily driver, just a weekend fun toy, but I'd still like to be able to take it on trips.

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I have a Nismo tech, and heavily compared the sport and the Nismo before purchase.

The Nismo essentially has all of the common aftermarket parts already on it, and even with general street use you'll notice the more collected suspension and stiffer everything. It really has that supercar feel.

I live near the mountains here in Colorado, so I get to use that better suspension whenever I like.

And the Nismo just looks better, in my opinion... So for me, the extra for the Nismo was a no-brainer as I could just go drive it.

As for the seats; I've logged a ten hour trip in the Nismo's Recaros and thought they were quite comfortable... Better than the seats in a friend's FiST by a long shot at any rate.
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you can check out my mods in the youtube link in my signature but I have heavily modded my car and carry a lot of track experience with it. I was in your same position when debating what one to buy and I need to say that after my full experience I would only consider the nismo model if I was a mid life crisis guy that wanted something sporty and nice looking with no intentions of modifying it.

The only thing your getting with Nismo is a name IMP... there are much better aftermarket parts available at a fraction of the price. Nissan is attempting to advertise the NISMO name as a race grade product but it really just isn't, infact when I ran the nismo suspension for 3 races last year, I ended up taking it out and putting in the base model suspension because I found it handled better.

as for the extra 20 HP or so that comes with the NISMO, you can literally spend $900 on your exhaust and gain that HP back. spend another $800 or so on an up rev tune and your pushing more hp then the NISMO at a fraction of the price.

If you like the red body skirting and the stiffer street ride then go with the NISMO, but if you don't want to waste money, buy a sport model and put $1500 - $2000 into the car and it will be better then any stock NISMO on the road.

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Nissan is attempting to advertise the NISMO name as a race grade product but it really just isn't, infact when I ran the nismo suspension for 3 races last year, I ended up taking it out and putting in the base model suspension because I found it handled better
This is very much dependent on tires and tire size. The Nismo suspension in most cases will and can handle stickier tires better. For normal tires it may actually make it feel worse like you said.
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This is very much dependent on tires and tire size. The Nismo suspension in most cases will and can handle stickier tires better. For normal tires it may actually make it feel worse like you said.
I run Michelin super sport tires, these are mid level race grade tires before going to compound that is so soft you get less then 2000 km to a set.

To put it in perspective, the tires I run are the same tires that Porsche puts on the GT4 race cars out of the box. They are very sticky
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I run Michelin super sport tires, these are mid level race grade tires before going to compound that is so soft you get less then 2000 km to a set.

To put it in perspective, the tires I run are the same tires that Porsche puts on the GT4 race cars out of the box. They are very sticky
I'll have to disagree* earnestly. The PSS are not even remotely the same as cup 2's or even extreme tires for that matter. They lack the tread block rigidity and overall sidewall support as tires of race compounds. They may be good, but they are not comparable to Cup 2's or something in the Extreme category such as the ZII's, BF rivals or RE71's.

They are not race grade tires. Extremes can handle more than 10k miles on and off the track certainly with a uprated sizes. I was able to get over 15k miles on my RS3's on my heavier G37 and over 20k miles on my Direzza ZIIs on my VW R32, and that was even on a undersized tire for the weight of the car and significant abuse on and off the track. Both of these tires can out handle PSS's as well as last just as long with better heat control.

I don't know what size tire you use, but i assure you they do not stack up to the latest offerings in the extreme class of tires. And yes, i have used the PSS on my car before. On the R32, and the ZII's and BF rivals out handled them immensely.
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I'll have to disagree* earnestly. The PSS are not even remotely the same as cup 2's or even extreme tires for that matter. They lack the tread block rigidity and overall sidewall support as tires of race compounds. They may be good, but they are not comparable to Cup 2's or something in the Extreme category such as the ZII's, BF rivals or RE71's.

They are not race grade tires. Extremes can handle more than 10k miles on and off the track certainly with a uprated sizes. I was able to get over 15k miles on my RS3's on my heavier G37 and over 20k miles on my Direzza ZIIs on my VW R32, and that was even on a undersized tire for the weight of the car and significant abuse on and off the track. Both of these tires can out handle PSS's as well as last just as long with better heat control.

I don't know what size tire you use, but i assure you they do not stack up to the latest offerings in the extreme class of tires. And yes, i have used the PSS on my car before. On the R32, and the ZII's and BF rivals out handled them immensely.
I don't know what it is your debating with me here lol?

I indicated in my post they are mid level race rated tires. Your comparing my tires to extreme track use tires. I completely agree with you that any track rated tire will our perform a PSS.

I never stated any wear that the PSS were hard core track ready tires, I compared them to being decent enough to be considered by Porsche as the tire they send there gt4 race spec cars off the lot on that can handle street and track use.
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I don't know what it is your debating with me here lol?

I compared them to being decent enough to be considered by Porsche as the tire they send there gt4 race spec cars off the lot on that can handle street and track use.
I think this is the confusion. The GT4 uses cup2 tires, atleast here where i live. If the GT4 where you live comes with PSS, then i feel sorry for whoever buys it there lol. So it sounded like you were saying the pss tires is as good as the cup2 tires. And the other part about them being "mid level" race grade tires, which they are not, for whatever that means. They are very good street tires.

My original point was about how the nismo suspension can handle tires with higher traction limits. Such as an extreme or competition tires.
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