Really? A Civic beats a Z

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-17-2017, 08:45 AM

The way this conversation is going right here is EXACTLY why I'll NEVER own a civic.

If you own or like civics or BRZ's, the likelihood of spewing out ridiculousness in defense of your favorite econobox automobile is very high. Which means I have to associate myself with you by owning the car. And I don't wanna be associated with econobox performance activism for equal rights. You're in a civic. Accept it. You're not in a better car like the Z as Z owners must accept they don't own Porsche's n Porsche owners must accept. You're no Ferrari & Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti.

In a civic, you're one upping a Kia Rio. That's one to grow on.

I'd never pay $45,000 for a civic when I can pay $25,000 for a GTi.

onzedge · 08-17-2017, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The way this conversation is going right here is EXACTLY why I'll NEVER own a civic.

If you own or like civics or BRZ's, the likelihood of spewing out ridiculousness in defense of your favorite econobox automobile is very high. Which means I have to associate myself with you by owning the car. And I don't wanna be associated with econobox performance activism for equal rights. You're in a civic. Accept it. You're not in a better car like the Z as Z owners must accept they don't own Porsche's n Porsche owners must accept. You're no Ferrari & Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti.

In a civic, you're one upping a Kia Rio. That's one to grow on.

I'd never pay $45,000 for a civic when I can pay $25,000 for a GTi.

Zingston · 08-17-2017, 09:04 AM

Love your 240z! Just curious, what are its hp/torque specs?

onzedge · 08-17-2017, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Zingston

Love your 240z! Just curious, what are its hp/torque specs?

My guess-timate is 220+ flywheel hp and as far as torque -- I am absolutely unsure...

The car weighs only 2200 pounds and I run a close ratio Borg Warner t-5 5 speed with an R-200 3.90 rear.

Every now and then I think about putting her on a dyno...

DeliriousClam · 08-17-2017, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The way this conversation is going right here is EXACTLY why I'll NEVER own a civic.

If you own or like civics or BRZ's, the likelihood of spewing out ridiculousness in defense of your favorite econobox automobile is very high. Which means I have to associate myself with you by owning the car. And I don't wanna be associated with econobox performance activism for equal rights. You're in a civic. Accept it. You're not in a better car like the Z as Z owners must accept they don't own Porsche's n Porsche owners must accept. You're no Ferrari & Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti.

In a civic, you're one upping a Kia Rio. That's one to grow on.

I'd never pay $45,000 for a civic when I can pay $25,000 for a GTi.

Why is there no "love" button?

Zatanna Z · 08-17-2017, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

The way this conversation is going right here is EXACTLY why I'll NEVER own a civic.

If you own or like civics or BRZ's, the likelihood of spewing out ridiculousness in defense of your favorite econobox automobile is very high. Which means I have to associate myself with you by owning the car. And I don't wanna be associated with econobox performance activism for equal rights. You're in a civic. Accept it. You're not in a better car like the Z as Z owners must accept they don't own Porsche's n Porsche owners must accept. You're no Ferrari & Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti.

In a civic, you're one upping a Kia Rio. That's one to grow on.

I'd never pay $45,000 for a civic when I can pay $25,000 for a GTi.

I agree with this to a certain extent. I would much rather have a Ferrari or Lamborghini over a Bugatti anyday though. And I think I might even rather have my Z over a Porsche. Porsche is still really nice though don't get me wrong. I just love my Z

MaysEffect · 08-17-2017, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

If you own or like civics or BRZ's, the likelihood of spewing out ridiculousness in defense of your favorite econobox automobile is very high. Which means I have to associate myself with you by owning the car. And I don't wanna be associated with econobox performance activism for equal rights. You're in a civic. Accept it. You're not in a better car like the Z as Z owners must accept they don't own Porsche's n Porsche owners must accept. You're no Ferrari & Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti.

In a civic, you're one upping a Kia Rio. That's one to grow on.

This is probably the most idiotically...unreasonable...nonsense commentary I've read all week...year...yes year.

However -

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I'd never pay $45,000 for a civic when I can pay $25,000 for a GTi.

I can agree to this based on reasoning alone, but everything before that was just heinous BS with zero bases. I don't even care for Civics or BRZ's. But to even make a statement like that...Is just simple minded ignorance.

"Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti"... seriously wtf does that even mean.

There isn't a single aspect to any argument where that makes any sense or even factually checks out. There are several Ferrari's that cost more, are worth more, and are faster than anything produced by Bugatti. The only claim behind a Bugatti (Veyron or Chiron) is acceleration and top speed, and in both regards there are cars that trump it, for less money or more. In a nut shell, the most recent Bugatti's are nothing more the exotic VW show pieces. Deny it...I dare you.

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I don't wanna be associated with econobox performance activism for equal rights.

This is borderline some hate speech a wannabe supremacist would say. Whether you like or not, you're associated...accept it. You bought a Japanese produced car like anyone who owns a Civic or BRZ.

Zingston · 08-17-2017, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MaysEffect

This is probably the most idiotically...unreasonable...nonsense commentary I've read all week...year...yes year.

However -

I can agree to this based on reasoning alone, but everything before that was just heinous BS with zero bases. I don't even care for Civics or BRZ's. But to even make a statement like that...Is just simple minded ignorance.

"Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti"... seriously wtf does that even mean.

There isn't a single aspect to any argument where that makes any sense or even factually checks out. There are several Ferrari's that cost more, are worth more, and are faster than anything produced by Bugatti. The only claim behind a Bugatti (Veyron or Chiron) is acceleration and top speed, and in both regards there are cars that trump it, for less money or more. In a nut shell, the most recent Bugatti's are nothing more the exotic VW show pieces. Deny it...I dare you.

This is borderline some hate speech a wannabe supremacist would say. Whether you like or not, you're associated...accept it. You bought a Japanese produced car like anyone who owns a Civic or BRZ.

Actually, this is probably the dumbest reply I've ever read... yeah, ever. Keep up the excellent work Mays!

Hang Ten!

MaysEffect · 08-17-2017, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zingston

Actually, this is probably the dumbest reply I've ever read... yeah, ever. Keep up the excellent work Mays!

Hang Ten!

From said person who's made nothing but shortsighted useless replies since joining. No wonder you don't like Californians, way too much mental energy for you.

Zingston · 08-17-2017, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MaysEffect

From said person who's made nothing but shortsighted useless replies since joining. No wonder you don't like Californians, way too much mental energy for you.

Never once did I say I didn't like Californians. Perhaps you should do some research before making erroneous assumptions. Or at least work on your so called 'mental energy' for more accurate results.

DeliriousClam · 08-19-2017, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MaysEffect

From said person who's made nothing but shortsighted useless replies since joining. No wonder you don't like Californians, way too much mental energy for you.

since this thread is going in 6 different directions already, mind if I ask a question? How the hell are you allowed to modify cars in CA with all the ***-backwards laws there?

redondoaveb · 08-19-2017, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DeliriousClam

since this thread is going in 6 different directions already, mind if I ask a question? How the hell are you allowed to modify cars in CA with all the ***-backwards laws there?

Besides CARB certified cai and cbe (doesn't have to be CARB certified), you're not ALLOWED to do much more.

UNKNOWN_370 · 08-21-2017, 08:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MaysEffect

This is probably the most idiotically...unreasonable...nonsense commentary I've read all week...year...yes year.

However -

I can agree to this based on reasoning alone, but everything before that was just heinous BS with zero bases. I don't even care for Civics or BRZ's. But to even make a statement like that...Is just simple minded ignorance.

"Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti"... seriously wtf does that even mean.

There isn't a single aspect to any argument where that makes any sense or even factually checks out. There are several Ferrari's that cost more, are worth more, and are faster than anything produced by Bugatti. The only claim behind a Bugatti (Veyron or Chiron) is acceleration and top speed, and in both regards there are cars that trump it, for less money or more. In a nut shell, the most recent Bugatti's are nothing more the exotic VW show pieces. Deny it...I dare you.

This is borderline some hate speech a wannabe supremacist would say. Whether you like or not, you're associated...accept it. You bought a Japanese produced car like anyone who owns a Civic or BRZ.

First off, very little to nobody gives a fvck what you agree with. Trust me on that. I been here a long time. N I even went thru a phase of acting like the pure bytch u being right now. I hadn't got pvssy in three months. So there's your cure my man.

The Ferrari Bugatti n so forth analogies are not based on preference. They are based on power, performance n u get that you pay for.

When a challenger demon can take a corner like a BUGATTI, have a Bugatti interior and so forth, I'll call them equal. But it can't. So solely getting to 60 in 2.3 seconds doesn't make them equal. This is my point.
I don't own a civic or. BRZ so I'm not associated with them just by owning a Japanese car....
It's funny that you state I made a supremacist statement. Well you just made a stereotypical one. You're saying that Japanese people make one model car and they all feel the same thru the ranges? See how easy it is to do what you do, slouch.

Having to break shyt down to the last compound cuz you try to twist people's points is about the most idiotic thing any forum has to deal with.

08-17-2017, 08:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
UNKNOWN_370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: ny'r livn in tx Posts: 8,687 Drives: well over 130m.p.h. Rep Power: 14859	The way this conversation is going right here is EXACTLY why I'll NEVER own a civic. If you own or like civics or BRZ's, the likelihood of spewing out ridiculousness in defense of your favorite econobox automobile is very high. Which means I have to associate myself with you by owning the car. And I don't wanna be associated with econobox performance activism for equal rights. You're in a civic. Accept it. You're not in a better car like the Z as Z owners must accept they don't own Porsche's n Porsche owners must accept. You're no Ferrari & Ferrari owners must accept you're no Bugatti. In a civic, you're one upping a Kia Rio. That's one to grow on. I'd never pay $45,000 for a civic when I can pay $25,000 for a GTi. FL 4Motion, onzedge, Tick64 and 4 others like this. __________________ Favorite Quote. "I'm not gonna kill you... I'm just gonna Bash Your Face In" Jack Nicholson-"The Shining". 1980

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Zingston A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 4,028 Drives: like it's a rental. Rep Power: 2684372	Love your 240z! Just curious, what are its hp/torque specs? onzedge likes this.

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