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Originally Posted by OhioYJ What does the shifter have to do with the clutch? I've also never really gotten the synchro argument either? Is the thought you'll be shifting so

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Old 07-01-2017, 12:30 PM   #16 (permalink)
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What does the shifter have to do with the clutch? I've also never really gotten the synchro argument either? Is the thought you'll be shifting so fast that you'll wear out the synchros quicker (you aren't speed shifting all the time)? Easy enough to throw the stock shifter back in if you started to have a problem. Either way both the clutch and synchros are most likely going to be consider a wear item right? Maybe I'll eat crow later on this one, but I've rebuilt a lot several manual transmission in my garage, if something happens, I'll most likely be the one fixing it anyways.
As far as Nissan is concerned, your shifter assembly is an integral part of your tranny. I guarantee you that if you show up to a dealer with tranny problems, your warranty will be voided if you have or have had an aftermarket shifter assembly on there.
You would be very surprised at how much the shifter assembly has to do with the transmission reliability. Believe me, I learnt this the hard way with past cars.
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As far as Nissan is concerned, your shifter assembly is an integral part of your tranny. I guarantee you that if you show up to a dealer with tranny problems, your warranty will be voided if you have or have had an aftermarket shifter assembly on there.
You would be very surprised at how much the shifter assembly has to do with the transmission reliability. Believe me, I learnt this the hard way with past cars.
Agreed 100%...OhioYJ sounds like he has never had a warranty discussion with a stealership before...
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As far as Nissan is concerned, your shifter assembly is an integral part of your tranny. I guarantee you that if you show up to a dealer with tranny problems, your warranty will be voided if you have or have had an aftermarket shifter assembly on there.
You would be very surprised at how much the shifter assembly has to do with the transmission reliability. Believe me, I learnt this the hard way with past cars.
This warranty argument is silly, why would you take the car into the dealer for transmission problems with an aftermarket shifter on it still? It takes maybe an hour to out the stock shifter back in? Put the stock shifter back in drive the car to the dealer, no big deal.

This is like the collectors who don't want to take a toy out of the box because they might harm it or ruin the value. I'm going to play with my toy and enjoy it.

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This warranty argument is silly, why would you take the car into the dealer for transmission problems with an aftermarket shifter on it still? It takes maybe an hour to out the stock shifter back in? Put the stock shifter back in drive the car to the dealer, no big deal.

This is like the collectors who don't want to take a toy out of the box because they might harm it or ruin the value. I'm going to play with my toy and enjoy it.

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How is it silly? Its a legitimate issue that someone may need to deal with if they put it on. Why not discuss the pros and cons of ownership and not just say its awesome because your defending your purchase...
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I'd disagree, I'd say money well spent. Since day one, I've always never cared for the way the car shifted. The TWM shifted definitely helped this. I'd do it again. I think lot of people who make these claims have not tried one on the 370.
Can't argue with you here as I've never had this on my 370Z. However the quotes that SINISTER has posted from kenchan as well as Nick911sc are valid points, and should be considered before replacing the shifter.

While a little notchy, I think the Z's shifter is pretty darn good, as I also own a 17 BMW M2. Yes the one that all the car mags fawn over. And they're correct, it's an excellent car with a lot of things superior to the Z, but I'd take the Z's shifter over the M2's anytime.
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I like the distance between gears on the Z, I had a short shifter on my Acura TL but the distance OEM was really far in between gears. I'm not sure if I would want to miss shift with a short shifter and I image the difference doesn't warrant the amount of work it takes to do so, but I guess to each their own, personally I rest my elbow on the center compartment and am able to shift with the twist of the wrist, good luck OP.
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This warranty argument is silly, why would you take the car into the dealer for transmission problems with an aftermarket shifter on it still? It takes maybe an hour to out the stock shifter back in? Put the stock shifter back in drive the car to the dealer, no big deal.

This is like the collectors who don't want to take a toy out of the box because they might harm it or ruin the value. I'm going to play with my toy and enjoy it.

Short shifters, the new oil thread
Okay, you just lost my support here. You're deliberately hiding something you did, and expecting someone else to pay for your actions. What makes this worse, is you think it's no big deal
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Honestly, I like the stock shifter in the Z just fine.

I've owned two very different Miata's over the years, 5 years each, a 2002 and a 1991. The shifters in those Miata's are excellent, everyone knows that too. Funny thing is, the one in the Z reminds me of that Miata shifter. It's not as short, and it's not as precise, but it's close.

I had a VooDoo knob on the 2002 and a JoyFast knob on the 1991. Just a simple flick of the wrist and you could run up and down the gears quickly and easily. The Z's shifter isn't too far off from those.

Maybe one day I'll get a shorter, weighted knob for the Z, but I can assure you one thing, it won't be a metal one again like those in the Miata's. Living down here in Florida, grabbing those knobs is the equivalent of putting your hand on a stove-top burner on high!

My only complaint with this car about smooth shifting is the darn clutch pedal. Even with the RJM pedal installed, I still don't have it dialed in right and still get jerky shifts through 1st to 3rd.
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I come from an S2k which is arguably one of the best shifters I have ever felt. People who say the stock shifter on the 370z is good enough have not experienced a good one i gurantee that. I have the TWM SS with a weighted knob and it is one of my best mods. I feel like people who have synchro issues on this car skip shift. Oh an OP dont cheap out in this part and do yourself a favor and get TWM.
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I have twm and couldn't be happier. No issues after about 2 years
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I just had my TWM short shifter installed and I love it. Yep, it's notchy but I love the notchy mechanical feel. It feels more like what a sports car should feel like (imo).
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I have the TWM short shifter as well as their Big Type R knob in graphite (matches interior perfectly btw), paired with a set of Z1 MTEC shifter springs. Short throws, crisper engagement and with the springs, a more mechanical feel. Darn close to Miata (14 year owner) like, but what is?
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Yes.. the Z's shift action is fine, but it is not like the Miata.

With the proper transmission fluid, the Z can be quite smooth.


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Honestly, I like the stock shifter in the Z just fine.

I've owned two very different Miata's over the years, 5 years each, a 2002 and a 1991. The shifters in those Miata's are excellent, everyone knows that too. Funny thing is, the one in the Z reminds me of that Miata shifter. It's not as short, and it's not as precise, but it's close.
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