How important is break in ?

mishuko · 04-26-2017, 11:36 AM

Engine maybe not so much but the clutch, pads and rotors need to be broken in

Tick64 · 04-26-2017, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SINISTER

Its kinda like being a smoker....you don't see it now but you will later....

Facts:
1. Average driver does 12 to 15k miles
2. Average driver sells their car every 3 to 5 years
3. Average human doesn't care about anyone but themselves (unfortunate) and their family..

If your the average driver/person stop waiting and get on it...(you will never see the effects) ....if you plan on keeping the car for longer than the average, or you care about the car and the poor sap who will buy the car....then wait until after the break in to led foot it.

I like the smoking analogy! Lots of good info in this thread.

Chuck33079 · 04-26-2017, 01:12 PM

Engine break in will never be a settled topic. Everyone has their opinion, and none of them are proveable since the ill effects of an improper break in take so long to show up. It's right up there with "what's the best type of oil" threads.

kenchan · 04-26-2017, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mishuko

Engine maybe not so much but the clutch, pads and rotors need to be broken in

By a good seasoned driver.. ur car is toast

mishuko · 04-26-2017, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

By a good seasoned driver.. ur car is toast

What counts as seasoned? I mean you could drive for 20 years be good bt don't know manual.... and then clutch dump and score the crap out of the plates ahhaha

OR be like me.... hot runs and then hose down my rotors to wash my rims. Yep. Very sure that's how I warped my rotors

kenchan · 04-26-2017, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mishuko

What counts as seasoned? I mean you could drive for 20 years be good bt don't know manual.... and then clutch dump and score the crap out of the plates ahhaha

OR be like me.... hot runs and then hose down my rotors to wash my rims. Yep. Very sure that's how I warped my rotors

are u u in both cases?

sorry to hear about ur brakes.. ive never had dat happen on any of my cars ive owned..

Magic Bus · 04-26-2017, 06:33 PM

Proper break in is only required, if you can't lie to your Nissan Tech during the warranty period!

markesc · 04-26-2017, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Magic Bus

Proper break in is only required, if you can't lie to your Nissan Tech during the warranty period!

Doesn't the ECU track nearly everything anyways? I always thought it logged the number of full throttle applications + duration, or is that ONLY prior to crashing into a concrete barrier?

mishuko · 04-27-2017, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan

are u u in both cases?

sorry to hear about ur brakes.. ive never had dat happen on any of my cars ive owned..

Only driver for 12 lol but yea I fkd up my rotors big time doing it a few times. Expensive lessons but so far have put another 30k on the car since that issue and rotors are still good.

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Originally Posted by markesc

Doesn't the ECU track nearly everything anyways? I always thought it logged the number of full throttle applications + duration, or is that ONLY prior to crashing into a concrete barrier?

I think it's on the higher super cars for performance tracking. I think McClaren or porche did that to the competitors and left a note cause they baught a car and they saw it was put on a test track

mishuko · 04-27-2017, 10:02 AM

https://drivemag.com/ww/news/did-por...a-gt3-test-car

Gatz · 04-27-2017, 10:31 AM

Just my opinion and my way of thinking but if it wasn't important, they probably wouldn't say anything about it? It's not that long anyways, i'd just follow the break in period.

SouthArk370Z · 04-27-2017, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by markesc

Doesn't the ECU track nearly everything anyways? I always thought it logged the number of full throttle applications + duration, or is that ONLY prior to crashing into a concrete barrier?

You are probably thinking of the Event Data Recorder. What it records and how long it keeps it is up to the manufacturer (unless the law has changed recently). The FSM may have info on how Nissan does it with the 370Z.

debueller · 04-27-2017, 01:06 PM

Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

Chuck33079 · 04-27-2017, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by debueller

Break In Secrets--How To Break In New Motorcycle and Car Engines For More Power

That article gets trotted out every time this conversation comes up. The guy provides next to no evidence, has a website that looks like a bad myspace page and interrupts his article multiple times to try to get you to look at a list of his 1000 favorite music videos. He very well may be right, but he's not helping his credibility with his presentation.

Dreadnaught · 04-27-2017, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by markesc

Doesn't the ECU track nearly everything anyways? I always thought it logged the number of full throttle applications + duration, or is that ONLY prior to crashing into a concrete barrier?

The PCM is monitors all kinds of things while the engine is running and even when not running. Things like fuel rail pressure, engine coolant temperature, ect. For instance when a car over heats a DTC is set and the check engine light comes on. Then when I scan the vehicle, freeze frame data will also be present which shows me the temperature of the coolant.

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