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UNKNOWN_370 01-17-2016 10:11 AM

Mustang GT vs 370z, non-corporate unbias review! Finally!!!
 
https://youtu.be/gMaXik0tEJA


Our cars have seriously been overlooked and over criticized by soul called "enthusiasts"
Now as the years pass, people are finally getting it instead of comparing speed and horsepower. Real enthusiasts will compare, real world power delivery, handling, responsiveness, fun to drive factor and driver-centric features... All which our cars excel in though our interiors are now dated. If they would've just added soft touch materials to our current interiors and smoothed out the plastics around the gauge cluster and console It would cease too look dated.

Our cars most definitely aren't without complaints... Much less complaints if you out for the automatic. My main complaint has been the crappy radio for its entry price.
You can literally kill the handling & exhaust sound weaknesses for $2,600.

Zoren 370 01-17-2016 10:47 AM

The handling and the nimbleness of the Z won me over a V8.


Life is not driven in a straight line its narrow and twisty!!

But if it gets bumpy get a truck! Lol

Felix 808 01-17-2016 11:09 AM

Video is broken use link

The way I see it, who cares what people think unless you are constantly trying to justify your choice. I say if you like great, if not find something you do like.

The Z works for me ;)

YMMV

cooltoy 01-17-2016 11:38 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMaXik0tEJA

BoneZ 01-17-2016 12:06 PM

Z please...

Spooler 01-17-2016 12:16 PM

Yeap, he got it.

MagmaRed370z 01-17-2016 12:25 PM

Its nice to see a review that weighs on different aspects and not just 0-60 time and Horse Power.

UNKNOWN_370 01-17-2016 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix 808 (Post 3390252)
Video is broken use link

The way I see it, who cares what people think unless you are constantly trying to justify your choice. I say if you like great, if not find something you do like.

The Z works for me ;)

YMMV

I don't need to justify my purchase or validate the Z. But I've never seen one car get so much misinformation by reviewers. It's like they have a personal vendetta against the Z. So I like to hear an unbiased, truthful review.

Spooler 01-17-2016 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3390308)
I don't need to justify my purchase or validate the Z. But I've never seen one car get so much misinformation by reviewers. It's like they have a personal vendetta against the Z. So I like to hear an unbiased, truthful review.

It's because they are not really true DRIVERS.. Just wantabes

Felix 808 01-17-2016 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3390308)
I don't need to justify my purchase or validate the Z. But I've never seen one car get so much misinformation by reviewers. It's like they have a personal vendetta against the Z. So I like to hear an unbiased, truthful review.

Wasn't directed so much at you as it was a general comment. There are too many clones in this world who just parrot what they heard somewhere else or frame themselves into styles, hence all the "misinformation by reviewers". Personally to me, reviews don't mean a whole lot if I have found value in something.

The guy did seem to like it in the vid ;) Thanks for sharing:tiphat:

Zbrah 01-17-2016 12:59 PM

I rented a mustang once. Glad I didn't own it.

UNKNOWN_370 01-17-2016 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Felix 808 (Post 3390323)
Wasn't directed so much at you as it was a general comment. There are too many clones in this world who just parrot what they heard somewhere else or frame themselves into styles, hence all the "misinformation by reviewers". Personally to me, reviews don't mean a whole lot if I have found value in something.

The guy did seem to like it in the vid ;) Thanks for sharing:tiphat:

I know it wasn't directed at me... Just conversating on the forum lol

sunkist350z 01-17-2016 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoren 370 (Post 3390238)
The handling and the nimbleness of the Z won me over a V8.


Life is not driven in a straight line its narrow and twisty!!

But if it gets bumpy get a truck! Lol

:iagree: Excellent review he got it spot on.

Zoren 370 01-17-2016 02:43 PM

That guy on the video is a very techky guy, I like watching his YouTube videos as he simply explains the different aspects of aerodynamics, difference between turbo and superchargers, cold air intakes etc in a simplest manner.

He is unbiased in my opinion too.

KngScottieV 01-17-2016 03:37 PM

My biggest reason for the Z was the styling. It just looks amazing. I still just stare at it every once in a while, it's a beautiful car.

Mustangs, I like the look of, but I wouldn't call it a beautiful car, just good looking. Also I see Mustangs everywhere and it loses appeal.

kay.zee 01-17-2016 04:11 PM

The Nismo is overpriced though! Seen one the dealer was trying to sell for $46,000 you gotta be kidding me.

Kzonts 01-17-2016 05:09 PM

I had a 2010 V6 Mustang with a ProCharger which was a really fun car, but I haven't driven a S550 model, so I can't comment on that. But I can honestly say I'm very happy with the "Z". I have the Sport model which is really great value for less than $34K.

And as the comparison video mentions, I would really like a telescoping steering wheel. I can never quite get comfortable with the seat adjustment.

sunkist350z 01-17-2016 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KngScottieV (Post 3390407)
My biggest reason for the Z was the styling. It just looks amazing. I still just stare at it every once in a while, it's a beautiful car.

Mustangs, I like the look of, but I wouldn't call it a beautiful car, just good looking. Also I see Mustangs everywhere and it loses appeal.

I agree the z is a gorgeous car I constantly stare at it in my garage while relaxing having a beer...and say to myself "damm that is one sexy sports car":yum:

UNKNOWN_370 01-18-2016 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3390548)
I agree the z is a gorgeous car I constantly stare at it in my garage while relaxing having a beer...and say to myself "damm that is one sexy sports car":yum:


Those haunches though! :leghump:

barncobob 01-18-2016 05:36 AM

I see mustangs everywhere, very few Zs.Ive had both and the Z is alot better car, IMHO

Dirk McGurck 01-18-2016 06:11 AM

The S550 to me is a gorgeous car. They just keep adding weight to it, and that ruins it for me. Nissan was part of a very small group that removed weight and size when moving to a new generation (350Z to 370Z). That's one thing I'm afraid about the Z35, if they make it heavier and larger.

mishuko 01-18-2016 07:03 AM

the scary part is i've seen more gtr's than z's....

interesting take on the reviews.

there was another review done about how fun the car is but unless you're really into race car mode it's definitely not the car for you.

Spoiler 01-18-2016 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KngScottieV (Post 3390407)
My biggest reason for the Z was the styling. It just looks amazing. I still just stare at it every once in a while, it's a beautiful car.
Mustangs, I like the look of, but I wouldn't call it a beautiful car, just good looking. Also I see Mustangs everywhere and it loses appeal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunkist350z (Post 3390548)
I agree the z is a gorgeous car I constantly stare at it in my garage while relaxing having a beer...and say to myself "damm that is one sexy sports car":yum:

I do really love the looks of this car too. I was out in my garage this weekend just sitting and staring at it... I must admit I kinda got a little bit of a "chubby" while I was out there... :D

Spoiler

DR_ 01-18-2016 01:07 PM

I have both cars, although both are very far from stock. Really two different cars, the Mustang is very practical, with a surprising amount of room and great visibility, making it a great daily driver. The Z is much more of a sports car, sacrificing practicality for performance. If you are really pushing the car the Z is much more rewarding, but just driving around normally the Mustang is the better ride.

UNKNOWN_370 01-18-2016 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3390663)
The S550 to me is a gorgeous car. They just keep adding weight to it, and that ruins it for me. Nissan was part of a very small group that removed weight and size when moving to a new generation (350Z to 370Z). That's one thing I'm afraid about the Z35, if they make it heavier and larger.


The Q60 coupe should be in the 3400b-3500lb range. Expect the Z to be at minimum 400lbs lighter.

JARblue 01-18-2016 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3390214)
You can literally kill the clutch hydraulic & exhaust sound weaknesses for $2,600.

Fixed :tiphat:

But I am seriously wondering... what do you consider the handling weakness? I cannot deny that there are many suspension variables that can be improved, and there are a decent number of aftermarket parts to do so. But for a street going sports car, it seems like the handling is a major strength for the Z. The OEM tires aren't the best is all I could think of lol. I'm pretty sure there are a couple of guys with multiple track seasons on the stock suspension still running strong :driving:

DR_ 01-18-2016 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3391084)
The Q60 coupe should be in the 3600b-3700lb range. Expect the Z to be at minimum 300lbs lighter.

fixed

Apex2Apex 01-18-2016 01:42 PM

Dear Central Florida Mustang drivers,

No, I don't want to race you. Not now, not ever.

Please go hug a ****.

Sincerely,

The 40 year old in the blue Z

P.S. In case you enjoy **** hugging (NTTAWWT), please go cuddle a vag.


That pretty much sums up my feelings on the mustang. Beautiful car that is apparently driven by idiots here in CF.

Dirk McGurck 01-18-2016 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3391084)
The Q60 coupe should be in the 3400b-3500lb range. Expect the Z to be at minimum 400lbs lighter.

They have to be doing some major magic on that chassis, then, since the G37 coupe was 3700lbs and the Q50 is listed between 3600-3900lbs.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be a very happy man with a 3000lb Z pushing 400HP from a 3.0L TTV6, but I doubt Nissan wants to invest that much in the car since they apparently hate us all.

mishuko 01-18-2016 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3391084)
The Q60 coupe should be in the 3400b-3500lb range. Expect the Z to be at minimum 200lbs lighter.

refixed

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3391095)
Fixed :tiphat:

But I am seriously wondering... what do you consider the handling weakness? I cannot deny that there are many suspension variables that can be improved, and there are a decent number of aftermarket parts to do so. But for a street going sports car, it seems like the handling is a major strength for the Z. The OEM tires aren't the best is all I could think of lol. I'm pretty sure there are a couple of guys with multiple track seasons on the stock suspension still running strong :driving:

re050a's are actually damn solid in DRY and warm/hot conditions. wet conditions, less than optimal tread and other thingies are well... yea.

minus the CSC, the weakest point already mentioned to me is the exhaust note. the g35/37 had such a nicer throaty sound.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3391151)
They have to be doing some major magic on that chassis, then, since the G37 coupe was 3700lbs and the Q50 is listed between 3600-3900lbs.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be a very happy man with a 3000lb Z pushing 400HP from a 3.0L TTV6, but I doubt Nissan wants to invest that much in the car since they apparently hate us all.

not sure if you saw the posts but the new engine is lighter than the current one BUT with plumbing it'll be 50lb or so heavier.

also need to keep in mind with newer technologies in safety/sound dampening (a major complaint from the weak willed) / bells and whistles they will fight to keep it under 3200 unless they seriously adjust the length/width.

Dirk McGurck 01-18-2016 04:17 PM

Agreed. The Mustang burned me once by gaining 200lbs from S197 to S550. So I will always expect the worst with generational changes.

Side note: The newest Honda Accord weighs less and is smaller than the outgoing model.

Duc_Z09 01-18-2016 04:50 PM

I mostly agree with the guy, and I test drove both cars (was leaning toward 5.0 at one point) before making a decision. However it seemed to me to be a pretty opinion-based, bush league review. "I haven't driven the base 370" isn't a great way to start an analysis of the NISMOs handling.:rofl2:

victort 01-19-2016 12:06 AM

hands down, GT for me please. thank you very much

UNKNOWN_370 01-19-2016 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3391095)
Fixed :tiphat:

But I am seriously wondering... what do you consider the handling weakness? I cannot deny that there are many suspension variables that can be improved, and there are a decent number of aftermarket parts to do so. But for a street going sports car, it seems like the handling is a major strength for the Z. The OEM tires aren't the best is all I could think of lol. I'm pretty sure there are a couple of guys with multiple track seasons on the stock suspension still running strong :driving:

For the occasional romp at TMS.... It needs minor work. I don't have a manual. So I don't have to waste money on that. :tiphat:

UNKNOWN_370 01-19-2016 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DR_ (Post 3391104)
fixed

Where you get that from? When the Q coupe was in pre-production. They said the coupe should be under 3,500lbs Did you get a new weight estimate since January 2015?

Cuz I've not heard new estimates since then?

The current non-hybrid sport model sedan is 3,574lbs

So why would the coupe be heavier with less doors?

UNKNOWN_370 01-19-2016 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirk McGurck (Post 3391151)
They have to be doing some major magic on that chassis, then, since the G37 coupe was 3700lbs and the Q50 is listed between 3600-3900lbs.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be a very happy man with a 3000lb Z pushing 400HP from a 3.0L TTV6, but I doubt Nissan wants to invest that much in the car since they apparently hate us all.

3,574lbs is the base weight of a Q50.
The hybrid is 3,849lbs.

The Z is 3300lbs, a sport is 3,330 and a Nismo is 3400

A G37 coupe is 3,714lb curb weight. 3850 with all wheel drive....

Fellas you better look at RWD cars for comparison. Not hybrid and AWD

Magic Bus 01-19-2016 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 3392032)
Where you get that from? When the Q coupe was in pre-production. They said the coupe should be under 3,500lbs Did you get a new weight estimate since January 2015?

Cuz I've not heard new estimates since then?

The current non-hybrid sport model sedan is 3,574lbs

So why would the coupe be heavier with less doors?

Plus it's also 4 inches shorter in length and 3 inches less in height. But it is 2 inches wider in width.

icormba 01-19-2016 11:13 PM

Here's an un-bias opinion...

If it's a 370Z vs GT... I'd get keep my 370Z

If it's a 370Z vs GT350... then, well...

http://www.the370z.com/members/icorm...z-vs-gt350.jpg

Wonka2581 01-19-2016 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by victort (Post 3391546)
hands down, GT for me please. thank you very much

:gtfo2:

Spooler 01-20-2016 02:15 PM

If the GT350r had A/C and a good radio I would be all in for a test drive.


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