Originally Posted by kay.zee (Post 3407034)

I tried to convince my friend to get a 370z, he ended up with a Cayman S and dam is it nice. It sounds better than my car, shifts better. I still like how the Z look more but he ordered a crazy wing, suspension and expensive wheels. We'll see how it turns out. Dam that inline 6 or whatever sounds so much better than the Z at WOT.

Originally Posted by SINISTER (Post 3624532)

Dont be jealous when it breaks down he will pay for his german mistake...$$ Notoriously unreliable....and they were spawns from a vw beetle so no matter what they say they own the performance version of the beetle. Bug eyes still included....;)

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3391095)

Fixed :tiphat:

But I am seriously wondering... what do you consider the handling weakness? I cannot deny that there are many suspension variables that can be improved, and there are a decent number of aftermarket parts to do so. But for a street going sports car, it seems like the handling is a major strength for the Z. The OEM tires aren't the best is all I could think of lol. I'm pretty sure there are a couple of guys with multiple track seasons on the stock suspension still running strong :driving:

Originally Posted by ZoomZ (Post 3624599)

Test Drive a Stock and NISMO. Even with the semi-high end NISMO suspension, it is a world of difference.

Originally Posted by ZoomZ (Post 3624599)

Test Drive a Stock and NISMO. Even with the semi-high end NISMO suspension, it is a world of difference.

Originally Posted by ayrton88 (Post 3624584)

Why bash the Beetle? As far as I'm concerned it's the best car to come out of Germany. Actually one of the best cars to come from any country. I'm assuming you are referring to the original Beetle.

Originally Posted by shirokenkami (Post 3624682)

I wrote a completely unbiased review from my own perspective recently. I still love the Z but realize there are better buys for similar money. I bought mostly because they sound AMAZING and are kinda uncommon in my neck of the woods. *cough-Corvettes everywhere-cough-cough*

Originally Posted by SINISTER (Post 3625408)

No better buy than a Z for similar money...nothing. I have owned everything ...nothing beats a Z for the price, reliability, looks and performance...nothing.
Of course we all have different criteria of what is important I guess ...:confused::confused:

Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3624624)

Yea and that 15k difference you can buy a BBK, coils, breather mods, differential, replace your csc, and get a tune....


Sport touring suspension when I did the dragon and I humbly can say it out performed my expectations. Only got passed by a pair of motorcycles (riding like tools) another guy- also driving like a tool when I was taking an easy run back to fontana with Tigger.

Originally Posted by JARblue (Post 3624631)

I've driven several of each. "World of difference" is a bit strong IMO, especially when talking about street driving. Plus, I wasn't really talking about comparisons between different packages (i.e. base and Nismo) on the same car - I figured he was comparing the handling deficiencies to other cars that are comparable to the Z.

Originally Posted by ZoomZ (Post 3625613)

Sure, if you have the time, Space and tools. Otherwise, taking it to a mechanic at probably $85/hr and UP, you would get close with parts and labour. Not to mention downtime.

If all that is ok, then yes, you can save yourself $10k.

Originally Posted by mishuko (Post 3625617)

Oh... I was thinking all in would be under 10k for quality parts better than nismo and better sound.

Originally Posted by Redglare (Post 3624430)

even the s550, still does not deliver the same feel as the Z, its just a big hunk of metal that goes fast.
I drove the AT variant and I could send text messages in between gear shifts and yes it was in sport mode.

the hood is awkwardly placed, car feels large, base seats are bad.

Funny how an 09Z still feels overall better than a '15 GT.

Originally Posted by abmobil (Post 3625887)

How does the Z compare to the BMW M2, and M4 on the track? I'm asking because I truly don't know.

What I do know is that the 2015 BMW M4 ran a 1:23.73 around Streets of Willow per Motor Trend.
The 2016 BMW M2 ran a 1:24.27 around the same track.

The S550 Mustang GT pulled off a 1:24.32.

Very close times, and I'd say the Mustang was very impressive considering the price difference between it, and the above BMW's. New Mustangs are much more than hunks of metal that go fast.

Originally Posted by s2krazyyy (Post 3625906)

The Mustang GT is a great car and the number it pulls around the streets of willow is great. But these numbers never tell the story on how a car actually feels in terms of driving experience. For example the Porsche Panamera Turbo does the streets of willow in 1:22.68 and I dont think anyone would consider it a better track car than any of those cars even the 370z.

Originally Posted by abmobil (Post 3625887)

How does the Z compare to the BMW M2, and M4 on the track? I'm asking because I truly don't know.

What I do know is that the 2015 BMW M4 ran a 1:23.73 around Streets of Willow per Motor Trend.
The 2016 BMW M2 ran a 1:24.27 around the same track.

The S550 Mustang GT pulled off a 1:24.32.

Very close times, and I'd say the Mustang was very impressive considering the price difference between it, and the above BMW's. New Mustangs are much more than hunks of metal that go fast.

Originally Posted by Eagle (Post 3626206)

We have amateur grassroots racers putting down 1:25's in Z33's and Z34's, put a pro behind the wheel and that's sure to drop a couple seconds at least.