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Originally Posted by felix0121 Lotus runs fast with comparatively little horsepower. Sent from my XT907 using Tapatalk BTW the Lotus Exige S is one of my favorites cars by far!

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Old 02-03-2016, 06:20 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Lotus runs fast with comparatively little horsepower.



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BTW the Lotus Exige S is one of my favorites cars by far!
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Old 02-03-2016, 07:54 AM   #77 (permalink)
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I crunched some numbers just for my entertainment and thought I would share them with you.

370Z Base (non Nismo):
Displacement - 226 cubic inches
Horse Power - 332
= 1.46 HP/CI
Weight - 3232 Lb
= 9.73 Lb/HP

370Z Nismo:
Displacement - 226 cubic inches
Horse Power - 350
= 1.55 HP/CI
Weight 3232 (?)
= 9.23 Lb/HP

2015 Mustang GT 5.0:
Displacement - 302 cubic inches
Horse Power - 435
= 1.44 HP/CI
Weight - 3810 Lb
= 8.75 Lb/HP

The "old" VQ37HR engine produces MORE HP per cubic inch than the new Coyote 5.0

The 'Stang has a better power to weight ratio.

Performance advantage goes to the Mustang until you reach a corner. The lighter weight of the Z will give it a handling advantage. YMMV
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I'm pretty sure the Mustang would win a drag race but the Z would win an autocross. At least that is what is happening around here.

Lots of factors involved, especially driver skills.

Z driver - "I did pretty good on that run"

Mustang driver - "somebody hold my beer, hey yaw, watch this!"
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I crunched some numbers just for my entertainment and thought I would share them with you.

370Z Base (non Nismo):
Displacement - 226 cubic inches
Horse Power - 332
= 1.46 HP/CI
Weight - 3232 Lb
= 9.73 Lb/HP

370Z Nismo:
Displacement - 226 cubic inches
Horse Power - 350
= 1.55 HP/CI
Weight 3232 (?)
= 9.23 Lb/HP

2015 Mustang GT 5.0:
Displacement - 302 cubic inches
Horse Power - 435
= 1.44 HP/CI
Weight - 3810 Lb
= 8.75 Lb/HP

The "old" VQ37HR engine produces MORE HP per cubic inch than the new Coyote 5.0

The 'Stang has a better power to weight ratio.

Performance advantage goes to the Mustang until you reach a corner. The lighter weight of the Z will give it a handling advantage. YMMV
This points to why even an NA Z35 would be awesome. In 2009, the Mustang still had the 4.6L worth 315HP, now they're pushing out more with a more advanced engine that weighs roughly the same.

Then you have the Japanese manufacturers innovating structural design: the new Mazda 6 sedan weighs a couple hundred pounds less than our Zs and is quite a bit larger. Same with the Accord sedan. Look at the new Miata weighing almost nothing comparatively.

Really, Ford should have made a new Capri based off the Mustang that was smaller and had the 2.7L V6 from the F-series. That would be more of a Z competitor.
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it's also a lot more raw than every other car on the market. but yes... they do make great power to weight ratio

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I actually like the new 'stang but I like my Z better.
I liked the previous front design with the more nostalgic look. the new one is kinda eh.

I did like the rear tail lights and how the blinkers moved as you indicated. that was neat
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Forget HP....do what Colin Chapman always advocated. "Add lightness". My only complaint with the Z is it weighs too much.
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I don't find my 2013 Touring with Sports pkg and all options to be dated in the slightest. The only thing I'd see needing updates are the nav screen/audio interfaces to include Android/Apple updates.
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i'd choose this over most cars you can offer me today
But why? Yes, they're cool looking. But compared to everything today those cars are slow, poor-handling, crappy brakes. I think once the generation who is currently robbing their retirement accounts to bid up these types of 1960s and 70s cars are gone, the prices on these will plummet like a rock.
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to me that's the best looking mustang, period. also, i highly doubt that their price will plummet.
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Z driver - "I did pretty good on that run"

Mustang driver - "somebody hold my beer, hey yaw, watch this!"
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Damn son, where do you work lol? Majority cars at my work are Accords, Camry's, trucks and corollas, not Porsches, BMW's, Telsas and GTR's lol.




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I crunched some numbers just for my entertainment and thought I would share them with you.

370Z Nismo: Starts at $42,000 - $47,000
Displacement - 226 cubic inches
Horse Power - 350
= 1.55 HP/CI
Weight 3232 (?)
= 9.23 Lb/HP
Skid pad pulls .99G depending on what year you're looking at? I picked the best one.

2015 Mustang GT 5.0: Added Performance Package is a MUST: Starts at $36,000-$41,000 (<41k if you want Recaro's)
Displacement - 302 cubic inches
Horse Power - 435
= 1.44 HP/CI
Weight - 3810 Lb
= 8.75 Lb/HP
Skid pad pulls .95G

However....
Shelby GT350: Starts at $48,000 - $58,000
Displacement - ~305 cubic inches
Horse Power - 526 ~101 hp per liter
Weight - ~3780 Lb
Skid pad pulls 1.00G

Performance advantage goes to the Mustang until you reach a corner. The lighter weight of the Z will give it a handling advantage. YMMV
I didn't include the GT350R because it's out of price range for all 3 here and very hard to get, unless you are Jay Leno and a couple other guys I know.

Don't get me wrong, I am and always will be a Z guy... but these American cars aren't "just" muscle anymore.
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That flat-plane 5.2 is amazing... I wish Nissan would get their $h*t together like Ford has finally done. Can you imagine what would happen if you threw boost at that monster?

Ford Releases Final Details On The GT350's Insane 5.2-Liter Engine


Think they'll make a swap kit for the Z anytime soon?
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That flat-plane 5.2 is amazing... I wish Nissan would get their $h*t together like Ford has finally done. Can you imagine what would happen if you threw boost at that monster?

Ford Releases Final Details On The GT350's Insane 5.2-Liter Engine


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And Lethal Performance slapped a SC on a 5.0 Coyote and ran 1/4 in 9sec.

But I'm not interested in that... it's about going around a track with twists and turns. Adding weight to the front end screws that up.

It always seems to be a cycle... starts with the Europeans, then the Japanese, until the Americans catch up. Right now it's the Americans. Everyone else needs to start again. It will happen... I think the Europeans will start with an affordable v6 with electric motor assist. Then the Japanese, hopefully Nissan, which leaves the Americans trying to play catch-up again. Over and Over... we get to reap the rewards!
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I just want a raw driver car. The only thing like a Z is a Porsche Cayman. Nismo compares to a Cayman GT4. Personally, I hate the nanny gadgets on the Z. Traction control and the stupid stability control suck. I don't need the syncro rev match either. I can heal/toe just fine without it. Just my .02.
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