[OFFICIAL] Discussion for the next new Nissan 400Z Z35?

Hotrodz · 03-19-2017, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

I don't think we need to compete with muscle. I think the Z has to built out of principle, not profit. Our cars have their own heritage. We don't have to compete against ANYONE except Porsche and jaguar.

So does the Mazda MX5...

SINISTER · 03-19-2017, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Too6Z

Although you can get more hp in a Mustang or Camaro, I personally wouldn't be caught dead in either. These days they are nearly as commonplace as Accords and Camarys, not an admirable quality in a sports car.

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Agreed, It used to be that the supply of high HP cars was limited unless you spent a fortune. Now anyone can get a high HP car ..
Z beats those cars in reliability, looks, handling, cost and usable HP.

SINISTER · 03-19-2017, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

So does the Mazda MX5...

Cool car for a girl..
Horse power has gotten to be excessive and unusable but 155 hp? Thats 3 less than a honda civic base model....

zeeder · 03-19-2017, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SINISTER

Cool car for a girl..
Horse power has gotten to be excessive and unusable but 155 hp? Thats 3 less than a honda civic base model....

Though, the civic weighs 400 lbs more!

SINISTER · 03-19-2017, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by zeeder

Though, the civic weighs 400 lbs more!

Divide your Z's present HP by 2 and its still higher than the miata.

Try this....google "MX5 for girls?" Tons of people asking the question, confirming it is, or defending it isn't.
Then ask yourself if you want to spend multiple years defending your purchase against the "girls car" stereotype.

chubbs · 03-19-2017, 02:33 PM

222 days to Tokyo.

KE_1508 · 03-19-2017, 03:52 PM

Hey, but you'll be a better driver, driving a slow car fast compared to driving a fast car slow.

The Z is definitely a car I don't see too often. Hands down though, we all can attest to the Mustangs, Camaros, etc that are driving around. I wish Nissan really took into consideration what "Project Z" was. We all know the next engine will most likely will be FI so atleast it was already made for boost. I feel that Nissan can do better in the handling department.

One takeaway when Hotrodz and I were driving a week ago was, we could still keep up with most of the cars out there in the corners despite the weight of the Z.

A list of wishes for the next Z:

-Make the Nismo version lighter (just like the GT3s and GT3RSs)

-Engine forced inducted from factory (check)

-Handling improvements (Front and Rear sway bar stiffened), I felt the stroke in the suspension was adequate, but the roll wasn't to my liking. It's pretty obvious though.

-Make each model of the next Z more tailored for various drivers.

-Base (standard Z w/o the usual bells and whistles; more milder in suspension setup for ride comfort/handling)

-Sport (a step up in suspension/handling, but still has room to modify for those wanting to track. optional wheel/tire setup, optional radiator/oil cooler)

-Nismo (more track oriented setup [suspension tailored for track use, but compliant on the street], AC delete option, more bolstered Recaros/bucket seat option, square wheel/tire setup option, larger radiator/oil cooler standard)

*of course there would be options for nav/radio/etc.

That would be in my eyes what I wish to see with the new Z.

Too6Z · 03-19-2017, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SINISTER

Divide your Z's present HP by 2 and its still higher than the miata.

Try this....google "MX5 for girls?" Tons of people asking the question, confirming it is, or defending it isn't.
Then ask yourself if you want to spend multiple years defending your purchase against the "girls car" stereotype.

I couldn't agree more, the MX5 is super girly, could never see myself in one of those. I am a bit surprised by how many guys I see driving the around here. Then again, the DC metro seems to have an endless supply of yuppie d-bags, so I guess it's really not that surprising.

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brucelidat · 03-20-2017, 01:46 AM

I have respect for the Miata. Ton of guys track them because they are light, handle great, and are inexpensive to run. Seems just fine for a fun sports car. It's definitely not fast or for me, but that's not everything and if it's fun for its owners, that's all that matters. They often graduate into s2ks though.

Dirk McGurck · 03-20-2017, 07:31 AM

If the S2K came back, there would be a lot of guys jumping from Zs and Miatas.

Hotrodz · 03-20-2017, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

I have respect for the Miata. Ton of guys track them because they are light, handle great, and are inexpensive to run. Seems just fine for a fun sports car. It's definitely not fast or for me, but that's not everything and if it's fun for its owners, that's all that matters. They often graduate into s2ks though.

The Miata is the most tracked vehicle in the US!

Chuck33079 · 03-20-2017, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

The Miata is the most tracked vehicle in the US!

Yep. I can see why. Old ones are cheap, consumables cost nothing, and you learn a whole lot more if you're not trying to hold back 600hp at the same time.

They're a ton of fun on the street too. You can hang the *** end out around every corner, tires squealing, and not even break the speed limit. Even though you're going 30 mph, it feels like you're going twice that since it's low to the ground and tiny. My sister had one for a few years and I loved borrowing it for errands. It is really spooky driving it on the freeway, though. You come halfway up the tire on an 18 wheeler. He wouldn't even feel it if he ran over a Miata.

Jordo! · 03-20-2017, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by zeeder

Though, the civic weighs 400 lbs more!

And has the wrong wheels doing the work.

Put a roots blower or turbo on a new MX-5, and it will have plenty of punch and kick everyone's *** all day.

If I can't swing an Alfa 4C for my next car, I'm going to have to seriously think about one of those in RF trim with some boost.

Hotrodz · 03-20-2017, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

And has the wrong wheels doing the work.

Put a roots blower or turbo on a new MX-5, and it will have plenty of punch and kick everyone's *** all day.

If I can't swing an Alfa 4C for my next car, I'm going to have to seriously think about one of those in RF trim with some boost.

I can tell you there are a lot of folks that get a$$ handed to them by those ladies cars on the track. Those bad boys that are boosted are pretty freaking fast!

mishuko · 03-20-2017, 03:06 PM

This got stickied? What in tarnation?

I have seen videos of a non booster s2000 do a nurburgring lap and pass plenty faster cars. Driver mod is highly underrated.

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KE_1508 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: AZ/GA Posts: 72 Drives: 08 Nismo 350Z # 1508 Rep Power: 8	Hey, but you'll be a better driver, driving a slow car fast compared to driving a fast car slow. The Z is definitely a car I don't see too often. Hands down though, we all can attest to the Mustangs, Camaros, etc that are driving around. I wish Nissan really took into consideration what "Project Z" was. We all know the next engine will most likely will be FI so atleast it was already made for boost. I feel that Nissan can do better in the handling department. One takeaway when Hotrodz and I were driving a week ago was, we could still keep up with most of the cars out there in the corners despite the weight of the Z. A list of wishes for the next Z: -Make the Nismo version lighter (just like the GT3s and GT3RSs) -Engine forced inducted from factory (check) -Handling improvements (Front and Rear sway bar stiffened), I felt the stroke in the suspension was adequate, but the roll wasn't to my liking. It's pretty obvious though. -Make each model of the next Z more tailored for various drivers. -Base (standard Z w/o the usual bells and whistles; more milder in suspension setup for ride comfort/handling) -Sport (a step up in suspension/handling, but still has room to modify for those wanting to track. optional wheel/tire setup, optional radiator/oil cooler) -Nismo (more track oriented setup [suspension tailored for track use, but compliant on the street], AC delete option, more bolstered Recaros/bucket seat option, square wheel/tire setup option, larger radiator/oil cooler standard) of course there would be options for nav/radio/etc. That would be in my eyes what I wish to see with the new Z. Hotrodz and littlejuanito like this. Last edited by KE_1508; 03-19-2017 at 04:14 PM.*

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