What's the best way to achieve 50hp?

Nismoracer · 06-05-2011, 10:08 PM

Would like the nismo to be at 400hp. What's the best way to do it?

tomnavone · 06-05-2011, 10:13 PM

Gtm supercharger.

Jamaica · 06-05-2011, 10:14 PM

Supercharger or TT

The Dimer · 06-05-2011, 10:15 PM

400 at the crank or the wheels? If it's the crank, exhaust and intake should get you there. If it's at the wheels, you're looking at forced induction.

Kingbaby · 06-05-2011, 10:26 PM

NOS!

Engine Build!

Research!

pokeyl · 06-07-2011, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingbaby

NOS!

Engine Build!

Research!

NOS: I'm looking at 100 or 150 shot with a digital controller, 1% at 3500 and 100% at 7000. That way it should not overpower the tires too bad.

Nismoracer · 06-07-2011, 12:14 PM

Just engine hp. 350hp as advertised would like to be around 400hp. Thinking intake and full exhaust would do it. Just don't want it to sound like a loud fart can with rasp. May just get some hfc. Already replaced the muffler but I don't think that will make it 50hp. Prob have to go headers and all the way back.

GetYourWheels · 06-07-2011, 12:16 PM

Intake and exhaust alone will not net you 50 whp.

A Good driving school on the other hand will net you more than 50whp on the track

Pelican170 · 06-07-2011, 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GetYourWheels

Intake and exhaust alone will not net you 50 whp.

A Good driving school on the other hand will net you more than 50whp on the track

This is correct. I think it was established on another thread that there is a 15% loss from Base HP to Wheel HP. You can get close to 400 HP but i dont think you're going to be over it...

m4a1mustang · 06-07-2011, 12:25 PM

FI or nitrous. Bolt-ons alone aren't quite going to get you there.

Cmike2780 · 06-07-2011, 12:29 PM

Note: Every engine is different, but this should give you an idea of how much whp you would need. You need a baseline dyno on your specific car to get a more accurate reading of hp gains.

Assuming 350hp @the crank & 300hp baseline @the wheels.

350 bhp x Y (whp gain)/300 whp= X (bhp gain)

Example 1:
40 whp gain (assuming breathing mods & tune...just an example, I'm guessing here)

350 bhp x 40whp/300 whp= 46.67 bhp gain
Total bhp @ crank: 396.7 bhp

So roughly an additional 40 hp @ the wheels would get you close.

Synack · 06-09-2011, 03:44 PM

In NISMO's, its about 332whp to get 400bhp. Considering most NISMO's are in the 290whp range then a total of about 40whp is needed. So intake, hfc's, catback, tune. All of that should put you over if you do it right. "Right" meaning don't get cheap mods that net +5whp as opposed to a mod more like Stillen which are upwards of more than +15whp each. Just using Stillen as an example, there are other ways.

So get +40whp is the answer.

_ace_ · 06-12-2011, 05:50 PM

Sounds like full bolt ons and a tune will get 400 bhp but the car just needs more air--tt, sc, nox--for 400 whp.

Any ITB systems in the works?

Kingbaby · 06-12-2011, 06:02 PM

too much money!

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokeyl

NOS: I'm looking at 100 or 150 shot with a digital controller, 1% at 3500 and 100% at 7000. That way it should not overpower the tires too bad.

Doit! Report back!

Synack · 06-14-2011, 11:32 AM

A supercharger will do the 400whp. I'm think about one for my own nismo Z.

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Cmike2780 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 5,059 Drives: slowwww Rep Power: 28	Note: Every engine is different, but this should give you an idea of how much whp you would need. You need a baseline dyno on your specific car to get a more accurate reading of hp gains. Assuming 350hp @the crank & 300hp baseline @the wheels. 350 bhp x Y (whp gain)/300 whp= X (bhp gain) Example 1: 40 whp gain (assuming breathing mods & tune...just an example, I'm guessing here) 350 bhp x 40whp/300 whp= 46.67 bhp gain Total bhp @ crank: 396.7 bhp So roughly an additional 40 hp @ the wheels would get you close. __________________ [09][MB][6-Spd MT][Touring][Stillen Gen III][K&N][Borla CBE][Evo-R] [ArchitTEK Photography]

06-05-2011, 10:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jamaica A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: SoCal Posts: 15,362 Drives: Under boost Rep Power: 73	Supercharger or TT

06-05-2011, 10:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
The Dimer Track Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Bolingbrook, IL Posts: 632 Drives: 2010 PW 370z Rep Power: 15	400 at the crank or the wheels? If it's the crank, exhaust and intake should get you there. If it's at the wheels, you're looking at forced induction.

06-07-2011, 12:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
Nismoracer Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Earth Posts: 420 Drives: 10 Nismo Rep Power: 14	Just engine hp. 350hp as advertised would like to be around 400hp. Thinking intake and full exhaust would do it. Just don't want it to sound like a loud fart can with rasp. May just get some hfc. Already replaced the muffler but I don't think that will make it 50hp. Prob have to go headers and all the way back.

06-09-2011, 03:44 PM	#12 (permalink)
Synack A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Houston Age: 36 Posts: 1,012 Drives: Sideways Rep Power: 16	In NISMO's, its about 332whp to get 400bhp. Considering most NISMO's are in the 290whp range then a total of about 40whp is needed. So intake, hfc's, catback, tune. All of that should put you over if you do it right. "Right" meaning don't get cheap mods that net +5whp as opposed to a mod more like Stillen which are upwards of more than +15whp each. Just using Stillen as an example, there are other ways. So get +40whp is the answer.

06-12-2011, 05:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
_ace_ Base Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Posts: 140 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 13	Sounds like full bolt ons and a tune will get 400 bhp but the car just needs more air--tt, sc, nox--for 400 whp. Any ITB systems in the works? Last edited by _ace_; 06-12-2011 at 05:53 PM.

06-14-2011, 11:32 AM	#15 (permalink)
Synack A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Houston Age: 36 Posts: 1,012 Drives: Sideways Rep Power: 16	A supercharger will do the 400whp. I'm think about one for my own nismo Z.

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