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i should put a * next to that with a subtext of "your mileage may vary" under it. as an OEM part it may be sufficient for spirited driving but

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Old 11-05-2011, 01:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i should put a * next to that with a subtext of "your mileage may vary" under it. as an OEM part it may be sufficient for spirited driving but if you are, in fact, planning to drive your car on track, you really just need to spend the money on a 34 row cooler and be done with it. i doubt the OEM unit is going to be as robust and in all likely-hood will cost as much or more as the aftermarket options. the only advantage is that the OEM kit is just that, OEM fitment and reliability. not that Z1's aftermarket kits are junk, far from it in fact, just that some people prefer OEM parts when they are available
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i should put a * next to that with a subtext of "your mileage may vary" under it. as an OEM part it may be sufficient for spirited driving but if you are, in fact, planning to drive your car on track, you really just need to spend the money on a 34 row cooler and be done with it. i doubt the OEM unit is going to be as robust and in all likely-hood will cost as much or more as the aftermarket options. the only advantage is that the OEM kit is just that, OEM fitment and reliability. not that Z1's aftermarket kits are junk, far from it in fact, just that some people prefer OEM parts when they are available
Thanks for the input. I am still on the fence with air cooled oil cooler or OEM. I do drive spirited and the temps do get up there and I notice hp loss. I will probably not be hitting the track anytime soon. So a 19 row air oil cooler would suffice. I am not so concerned with OEM parts and if the OEM retrofit is going to cost close to a 19 row cooler, then I would rather just go with aftermarket 19 row cooler.
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Thanks for the input. I am still on the fence with air cooled oil cooler or OEM. I do drive spirited and the temps do get up there and I notice hp loss. I will probably not be hitting the track anytime soon. So a 19 row air oil cooler would suffice. I am not so concerned with OEM parts and if the OEM retrofit is going to cost close to a 19 row cooler, then I would rather just go with aftermarket 19 row cooler.
Unless you are tracking it, the water cooled one would be more ideal. Gets the oil to operating temp faster and keeps it there.

Air would be (theoretically) better if constantly pushing it to the limits, as on a track. On the road, it will be less consistent (even with a thermostat) and in the winter tend to keep the oil cooler than would be ideal (hence people relying on block off plates...).
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Unless you are tracking it, the water cooled one would be more ideal. Gets the oil to operating temp faster and keeps it there.

Air would be (theoretically) better if constantly pushing it to the limits, as on a track. On the road, it will be less consistent (even with a thermostat) and in the winter tend to keep the oil cooler than would be ideal (hence people relying on block off plates...).
Thanks for the 411. Makes sense to get the oil temp up to nominal operating range fast on cold start ups and then keep it there consitantly when outside temps get hotter in the summer time.

I like this approach and will wait to see what Z1 can do retrofitting the 2012 OEM for 09-11 models and how it tests out.

Just curious, at what outside tempture in degrees, do people in colder regions have to use block off plates?
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First salvo fired. I did put the correct VIN into the first e-mail so I don't know what game NISSAN is playing there. I redacted the e-mails somewhat to delete any personal information as well.

Standard manufacturer response, I know. Boring.

I'm not done. I haven't received an e-mail response to my 'first response' e-mail so let the phone calls commence.

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First salvo fired. I did put the correct VIN into the first e-mail so I don't know what game NISSAN is playing there. I redacted the e-mails somewhat to delete any personal information as well.

Standard manufacturer response, I know. Boring.

I'm not done. I haven't received an e-mail response to my 'first response' e-mail so let the phone calls commence.

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This is a classic example of one of the many things wrong with society. We are NEVER satisfied, and we always demand satisfaction, even when we're wrong.

Your oil temps are not *dangerous*. If they were, you would have a legitimate gripe. But, they aren't, so alas, you do not. Nissan chose to IMPROVE upon their original design with an oil cooler - they did not do so out of fear of engine damage, but to improve upon their design. If this doesn't jive well with you, stop buying cars now because this happens to every single car at some point.

This is really no different than if they improved the intake and gained 5 hp on the model. Would you demand a new intake as well? What you're arguing for is improved performance of the car in general, not a safety feature.
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Wrong. At no point in any of my e-mails did I ask for more performance out of the car. I asked for a modification that would keep my oil out of the 240 degree range when driving 10-20mph in traffic on a summer day.

As far as me or anything I say being anything wrong with society, shove it up your self-righteous ***. I served my country in the military for 22 years and have been a taxpayer for going on 30. I vote in every election, own a house, and I have raised two very educated and strong children. I have a right to complain all I want, and I'm doing it the right way.

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