Traction issues with more power?

[Chuck33079]

Originally Posted by Jhill

Not to argue with you as I've seen your post before and you know what you are talking about but the heat exchanger on the stillen not being an air to air shouldn't be the end of the world though and cause the engine to be a ticking time bomb should it? I mean I've heard some of the BMWs are now using a air to water cooler in manifold like the stillen kit so in theory if the tune were right and you knew the coolers ability to drop temps per ambient etc wouldn't it be safe?

The biggest problem isn't the water to air intercooler. It's the fact that the ecu doesn't really know the temperature of the intake air since the maf is before the intercooler. An air to water intercooler isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's just this particular one is undersized and heatesoaks easily, which is an especially bad thing in this case since the ecu is thinking the air temp is close to ambient.

[Jhill]

Originally Posted by Chuck33079

The biggest problem isn't the water to air intercooler. It's the fact that the ecu doesn't really know the temperature of the intake air since the maf is before the intercooler. An air to water intercooler isn't necessarily a bad thing. It's just this particular one is undersized and heatesoaks easily, which is an especially bad thing in this case since the ecu is thinking the air temp is close to ambient.

Right I understand the air temp issue I'm just curious how other cars with water to air cooler in the intake (like BMW) do it. I guess I'll have to see where their air temp sensor is but I assumed it was in the untalented path as well.