more power to you. I prefer to run the best parts I can, regardless of brand.

explains everything

And having a peek under my bonnet?

o turst me i know.. all tires react different once you get heat in them... but for what this discussion that is exactly what iv been saying..

the difference between the pss and the pzero will be hard to tell the difference.. there is not a vast difference.. is the pss a better tire..YES.. but its not vastly superior to the point where the average guy will tell the difference.. and not for anything it doesnt look like to many of these people are serious track racers.. more just weeken warriors like most of us.. who like to go and have some fun from time to time....

Well now that we've cleared that up...

ok then they were the previous gen ones..

i noticed the difference from the passenger seat, but it also may have been the fact that steve is an extremely skilled driver :|

I bet it's filled out nicely, not much wiggle room in there.

Moar dorifto! :icon17:

I had fun and learned a lot, which is all that matters to me.

Answer my fvcking question

im the same way.. and i dont let someone tell me something is the best i have to see that it is.. i dont jump on the bandwagon.. i prefer to test myself and make my own decision..

that is the reason why i stick with pirelli.. for me i have never had a problem with them and they work great for me.. until the day comes that pirelli lets me down i will run them..

Aniceh going to Bobo's garage for intake/exhaust install? :|

trollololol

:icon18: if you can tell the difference from the pasanger seat of someone elses car then you need to get a job being a tire tester.. because clearly you have a gift..:bowrofl:

you can do things that pros cant even do...:stirthepot:

i recommend trying the PSS then. For heavier cars that are mostly used on the road, it is the best performance choice. Re11 for the track.


and steve, STAR SPECS for light cars

certain characteristics are actually to judge from the passenger seat.

Driving instruction would be almost impossible if you couldn't judge grip/breakaway from the passenger seat.

You are completely useless :shakes head:
Except for raping behind Starbucks

Be sure to post pics for DIY write up. :|

I guess that's why you said, "slow down." :| :| :| :|

Man, I am all about the DIY. ;)

yes driving instruction from the pasanger seat.. but not testing tires from the passanger seat... can u feel certain thing and be able to instruct.. sure.. but a lot of it comes from the instructor knowing the track and where to brake accelorate etc,..

noone test tires from the passanger seat.. that a first hand experiance to be able to fully tell whats going on..

yeah but I wasn't talking about the car :|

sure, but I can absolutely tell you how a tire compares from the passenger seat. Again, you get a better idea of certain characteristics when you aren't driving.

Driving instruction would be impossible if you couldn't get an idea of grip limits, audio feedback, etc.

I've driven on both tires, and can 100% tell you that anyone that thinks the Pzero compares to PSS doesn't know what they are talking about.

well i will have to test the pss.. and get back to you..

as for all these post.. i find it funny that this much of a debate because i gave a different option other than what everone else runs....

i have to run ill be back on later to respond to everyones post.. may take me a while.. :bowrofl:

This happens more often than you think. You'll get used to it eventually, just like everything else :icon17:

I run Pzeros...


...that's why I'm advising against them:roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2::roflpuke2:

:facepalm:

I need some tires too, actually I need almost 2 sets... fuuuck.

O rly? No one would have ever guessed you needed tires :icon17:

yeeeeah, I need quite a few tires. Its on the radar. I just gotta find a good deal.

:icon18:

I guess I should add that I have Pirellis on my S2000 right now. Sottozero Serie II winters. Have them on the ST too. :tup:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9...0/pirelli3.jpg

And, we might get some snow to test them out in tomorrow!

we got like 2 inches last night here and its been raining today

They are calling for 2-4 in the DC area.

i have never had pirelli snow tires. are the as good as blizacs?

Probably not as good as Blizzaks in deeper snow, but on cold dry pavement they should be much better. In the dry they are every bit as good as the Dunlop Wintersport M3s I had on my Mustang (that Dan now has on his!). I'm expecting them to be similar in the snow.

it warmed up so fast though whenever i went to work roads had no snow. little bit of plowing and salt and they melted fast. when i passed out at 4-ish it was still snowing and none touched the roads yet too.

I've pretty much only had 70* weather since I got them....

let me know how they are... iv been running all seasons for the past few years and have been thinking of buying winter wheels n tires.. once i can decided to keep a car for more than 6 months...:bowrofl:

holy crap. I thought you said you couldn't type. Did you hire someone so you can keep up with the posts? I swear I've read the last 10 pages and half were yours.

Who's gonna make the vinyl decal that says "more ghey talk"?

i cant type, look at the gramer and the misspelled words.lol i cant spell to begin with then add in me tryin to type fast and its all over..

I put a deposit down today on a red, 2002, 2 seat, manual Honda with a sewing machine motor.