M.Bonanni's 370Z Project "Born Again"

SPOHN · 06-16-2011, 08:26 PM

I thought alot of the fuel starvation issues were solved from the 350 days. Can't quite remember the guy but he was based in Chicago I believe. He had alot of experience with fuel systems. Very reputiable person. Maybe it will ring a bell?

M.Bonanni · 06-16-2011, 08:42 PM

I never had any fuel starvation issues with my old 350Z, definitely nothing at all like we see in the 370Z.

ChrisSlicks · 06-22-2011, 09:13 AM

Hey Mike, did you install those studs yet? I was wondering where they take the measurement from as it seems to vary. I measure the stockers as 40mm including knurl but not including head, so these would be +20mm?

M.Bonanni · 06-22-2011, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Hey Mike, did you install those studs yet? I was wondering where they take the measurement from as it seems to vary. I measure the stockers as 40mm including knurl but not including head, so these would be +20mm?

No I have not installed them yet, but yeah they are +20mm over stock. They also make a 50mm stud which is +10mm over stock.

wstar · 06-22-2011, 01:42 PM

FWIW, I went with the 50mm on the fronts and the 60mm on the rear, with my 18x10 + 18x11 Forgestars (maybe Mike remembers the offset those were made in by default from Forgestar, I don't at the moment), and using Muteki's little short open-ended tuner nuts.

The 50mm was just enough in the front (the stud sticks out past the nut by a thread or two, and still easy access). The 60mm was way more threads than necc in the rear, but the rear lug holes are also very deep, so the longer stud helps guide you down the deep hole without banging up the paint anyways. If I had it to do over again, I'd pick the same sizes again.

ChrisSlicks · 06-22-2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by wstar

FWIW, I went with the 50mm on the fronts and the 60mm on the rear, with my 18x10 + 18x11 Forgestars (maybe Mike remembers the offset those were made in by default from Forgestar, I don't at the moment), and using Muteki's little short open-ended tuner nuts.

The 50mm was just enough in the front (the stud sticks out past the nut by a thread or two, and still easy access). The 60mm was way more threads than necc in the rear, but the rear lug holes are also very deep, so the longer stud helps guide you down the deep hole without banging up the paint anyways. If I had it to do over again, I'd pick the same sizes again.

Thanks, that's was the direction I thinking about heading. I have the same wheel setup and currently have the H&R 55mm studs and the same lugs as you. I like to replace my studs every couple of years and lugs every year as they get a lot of abuse from swapping wheels back and forth so I was trying to decide what to use this time. ARP has a big reputation but there is only one size available that fits and they are 75mm long. Nismo is my next choice.

Mike · 06-22-2011, 02:56 PM

18x10+34, don't know about the 11s

Ethan@a.m. · 06-23-2011, 01:21 AM

mike whats up man! i just bought a personal nismo 370z today to have the shop play with, you gonna be at the next redline?

M.Bonanni · 06-23-2011, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Ethan@a.m.

mike whats up man! i just bought a personal nismo 370z today to have the shop play with, you gonna be at the next redline?

Nice! I don't think I will be there unfortunately. The Berk car is getting some work done to it and it wont be ready. I have been looking for another car to drive at the event but haven't had any luck. I still may go down there on Sunday just to hang out if I get my brake duct kit done on Saturday.

M.Bonanni · 06-30-2011, 06:25 PM

Making progress! Brake ducts are in the assembly phase (although I still have to figure out how to route the driver's side). I also made some cardboard templates for some oil cooler ducting to force more air through the cooler. Hoping to have both these projects done this weekend. First track day July 10th at Buttonwillow with Extreme Speed.

ChrisSlicks · 06-30-2011, 08:35 PM

Looks like you're off to a good start! Interested to see how it ends up. As for the oil cooler ducting it might help a little, but I don't think there is an air cooler big enough to keep this car cool. I think I will eventually go to a oil/water cooler and let the giant radiator do the work.

M.Bonanni · 07-01-2011, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Looks like you're off to a good start! Interested to see how it ends up. As for the oil cooler ducting it might help a little, but I don't think there is an air cooler big enough to keep this car cool. I think I will eventually go to a oil/water cooler and let the giant radiator do the work.

I think it will help a lot more than it seems like it will when you look at fluid dynamics. Air travels through the least path of resistance and the oil cooler is a path of resistance, as is the radiator so air will find any way to go around it. If you block off all of the little holes around the radiator and duct the oil cooler, you're forcing more air to go around it. Did this on the Berk 135i with exceptional results. Plus it is A LOT cheaper haha. Fingers crossed that it works well enough but we'll have to see.

ChrisSlicks · 07-01-2011, 10:51 AM

If I can drop my oil temp by 20 degrees I'll be very happy. If it works for you I'll definitely be trying it out!

M.Bonanni · 07-02-2011, 06:16 PM

Photo of said ducting during test fitment before it was painted...

M.Bonanni · 07-05-2011, 01:44 PM

Started a 3rd project thread for Version 3.0 of this build...

M.Bonanni Project 370Z V3.0 | Clean Slate

06-16-2011, 08:26 PM	#481 (permalink)
SPOHN A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Covington, GA Age: 45 Posts: 14,844 Drives: Waiting on next Z Rep Power: 221	I thought alot of the fuel starvation issues were solved from the 350 days. Can't quite remember the guy but he was based in Chicago I believe. He had alot of experience with fuel systems. Very reputiable person. Maybe it will ring a bell? __________________

06-16-2011, 08:42 PM	#482 (permalink)
M.Bonanni The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,575 Drives: Fast Rep Power: 1320	I never had any fuel starvation issues with my old 350Z, definitely nothing at all like we see in the 370Z. __________________ MikeBonanni.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/MikeBonanni Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/MBonanni36 Function > Form

06-22-2011, 09:13 AM	#483 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Hey Mike, did you install those studs yet? I was wondering where they take the measurement from as it seems to vary. I measure the stockers as 40mm including knurl but not including head, so these would be +20mm? __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

06-22-2011, 01:42 PM	#485 (permalink)
wstar A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4,024 Drives: too slow Rep Power: 3594	FWIW, I went with the 50mm on the fronts and the 60mm on the rear, with my 18x10 + 18x11 Forgestars (maybe Mike remembers the offset those were made in by default from Forgestar, I don't at the moment), and using Muteki's little short open-ended tuner nuts. The 50mm was just enough in the front (the stud sticks out past the nut by a thread or two, and still easy access). The 60mm was way more threads than necc in the rear, but the rear lug holes are also very deep, so the longer stud helps guide you down the deep hole without banging up the paint anyways. If I had it to do over again, I'd pick the same sizes again. __________________ 7AT Track Car! Journal thread / Car setup details

06-22-2011, 02:56 PM	#487 (permalink)
Mike The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Loganville, GA Posts: 5,944 Drives: 370z Rep Power: 2185	18x10+34, don't know about the 11s __________________ NISSAN: 75 280Z / 86 300ZX GLL /87 Sentra SE / 03 350Z / 23 Z Porsche: 93 968 / 23 Macan GTS / 93 968

06-23-2011, 01:21 AM	#488 (permalink)
Ethan@a.m. Base Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: santa cruz, ca Posts: 3 Drives: 2011 nismo 370z Rep Power: 14	mike whats up man! i just bought a personal nismo 370z today to have the shop play with, you gonna be at the next redline?

06-30-2011, 06:25 PM	#490 (permalink)
M.Bonanni The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,575 Drives: Fast Rep Power: 1320	Making progress! Brake ducts are in the assembly phase (although I still have to figure out how to route the driver's side). I also made some cardboard templates for some oil cooler ducting to force more air through the cooler. Hoping to have both these projects done this weekend. First track day July 10th at Buttonwillow with Extreme Speed. __________________ MikeBonanni.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/MikeBonanni Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/MBonanni36 Function > Form

06-30-2011, 08:35 PM	#491 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	Looks like you're off to a good start! Interested to see how it ends up. As for the oil cooler ducting it might help a little, but I don't think there is an air cooler big enough to keep this car cool. I think I will eventually go to a oil/water cooler and let the giant radiator do the work. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

07-01-2011, 10:51 AM	#493 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	If I can drop my oil temp by 20 degrees I'll be very happy. If it works for you I'll definitely be trying it out! __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

07-02-2011, 06:16 PM	#494 (permalink)
M.Bonanni The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,575 Drives: Fast Rep Power: 1320	Photo of said ducting during test fitment before it was painted... __________________ MikeBonanni.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/MikeBonanni Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/MBonanni36 Function > Form

07-05-2011, 01:44 PM	#495 (permalink)
M.Bonanni The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,575 Drives: Fast Rep Power: 1320	Started a 3rd project thread for Version 3.0 of this build... M.Bonanni Project 370Z V3.0 \| Clean Slate __________________ MikeBonanni.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/MikeBonanni Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/MBonanni36 Function > Form