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Old 01-08-2014, 12:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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You're exactly the type of person they are marketing these boxes to! I think the biggest problem they will have initially is getting people to develop games for linux (SteamOS runs on a variant of linux). But I have a feeling developers will be happy to shed the world of Microsoft and DirectX its just going to take some time.

I'm personally most excited about a streaming machine. All the current SteamBoxes are equipped with fairly hefty hardware. I want to use my own personal computer I built to run the games and then use a very small form factor pc at my TV to stream the games. This is what I am excited for the most to date. the controller sounds interesting and I'm willing to give it a go but I have my doubts.
My tl;dr on the steam machine situation is that they are basically Alienware with a fancy proprietary OS but without the suck. They are dedicated gaming machines.

Unfortunately for Cody, you can't use them to play LoL or DotA.
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My tl;dr on the steam machine situation is that they are basically Alienware with a fancy proprietary OS but without the suck. They are dedicated gaming machines.

Unfortunately for Cody, you can't use them to play LoL or DotA.
some new thing Razor is making looks disgusting. it's a modular PC set-up with parts you just snap into a main tower piece. i dont PC game much at all but this set-up just looks awesome. even has a LCD screen for hardware statuses and maintence info.

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some new thing Razor is making looks disgusting. it's a modular PC set-up with parts you just snap into a main tower piece. i dont PC game much at all but this set-up just looks awesome. even has a LCD screen for hardware statuses and maintence info.

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The idea is cool that just about anyone could build a nice computer with this solution but sooner than later the backbone is going to become obsolete and have to be replaced. The architectures change so fast because they have to keep up with all the new chipsets for new processor families.
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my main gripe with steam and that whole thing is that it's basically like the hipster equilvilant of gaming. it's all about early alphas/betas and who played it first nonsense. also they do run some awesome deals on older/other games as well so dont get me wrong there. it is a nice platform of gaming and ways to access/obtain games. i still just find it laughable about the early offering stuff. i guess im a older gamer since i still think when i buy a game it should be you know finished lol but i do love with online stuff now they can update games with rosters for sports games and new maps/game types. i just hate things like GTA needing a million patches to run correctly. thats just awful to me but i still love the game lol
It didn't used to be like that. I've been on steam for 10+ years and the whole greenlight, alpha/beta early access junk is recent within the past year. I'm right there with you, I don't buy games until they're fully released.

The nice thing about steam is that it downloads and applies the updates for you automatically. A patch on a console usually means something is seriously broken because the developers have to pay MS to release a patch. A patch on a pc game is usually expanding the content of the game but not always.

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My tl;dr on the steam machine situation is that they are basically Alienware with a fancy proprietary OS but without the suck. They are dedicated gaming machines.

Unfortunately for Cody, you can't use them to play LoL or DotA.
All of those boxes are FUGLY too. I don't understand why no one has anything decent looking yet. I will likely be building my own small form factor pc and dual booting windows and SteamOS on it for my media center.

I would imagine DOTA is going to be ported to linux since Valve owns the game now I believe. Just really a matter of time to get developer buy in.
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[QUOTE=4r3s;2642169]It didn't used to be like that. I've been on steam for 10+ years and the whole greenlight, alpha/beta early access junk is recent within the past year. I'm right there with you, I don't buy games until they're fully released.

The nice thing about steam is that it downloads and applies the updates for you automatically. A patch on a console usually means something is seriously broken because the developers have to pay MS to release a patch. A patch on a pc game is usually expanding the content of the game but not always.
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well with the xbox one now and the low power standby mode it'll automatically download and apply updates while it is "off" and you're not home or playin etc... which is nice because soemtimes with like COD and the new playlists/maps the updates on 360 would take anywhere from 5-20 minutes or so. when you take the time to download a whole map pack the last thing you want is more wait time for the playlist patch lol.

the Halo 3 beta may have been one of the only betas i was ok with it lol it was amazing and to be honest it didnt feel like a beta at all. that was more or less a "hey heres the MP. go play it tell us what sucks and what is good." it was the community having a voice in the final product. the early stuff on steam is bascially you paying to be a tester lol it's a very clever way these low-level start up game designers are getting around costs and taking advantage of gaming retards wanting to be "on the cutting edge and forefront" of gaming aka being gaming hipsters lol.
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I would imagine DOTA is going to be ported to linux since Valve owns the game now I believe. Just really a matter of time to get developer buy in.
Uh..DotA can't be played on the Steam Machine because it's geared towards console gaming. DotA can't be played with a controller - it requires a keyboard/mouse.

Apparently, it's a running joke around Valve HQ
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hey, it very well could be an excellent product for all I know. I'm just naturally pessimistic about these kinds of things.
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hey, it very well could be an excellent product for all I know. I'm just naturally pessimistic about these kinds of things.
i'm partially that way as well lol
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Off topic...bought a Dell Venue 8 Pro yesterday. using it for mostly media and ecutek.lol

And Mark is 100% right I needs mah LoL. Steam box is going to be fantastic.
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Off topic...bought a Dell Venue 8 Pro yesterday. using it for mostly media and ecutek.lol

And Mark is 100% right I needs mah LoL. Steam box is going to be fantastic.
steambox? try steam boxs lol there was like 10 big name ones annouced at CES already.
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Lol I know. Im just generalizing.
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Lol I know. Im just generalizing.
i'm still gonna stick with my Xbox one lol not trying to pay over a grand for some of these nicer steam machines.
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i'm still gonna stick with my Xbox one lol not trying to pay over a grand for some of these nicer steam machines.
Yeah I feel you. IM looking to get the Dell P28 4k monitor this Summer. GOing to need a lot of new hardware )=
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Well this is interesting...
CES: Vizio 4K TVs Will Start at $999 for the 50-inch Model - IGN

I might actually buy that at $1k even with the limited content.
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Now THAT is awesome.. hopefully the better manufactures like Sony and Samsung, slash their prices.
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