MAZOC Karting Challenge 27 April (Sat.)

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 10:06 PM

I think it's a liability thing. It's harder to sue SPK after getting hurt if SPK has proof that they warned you previously for "dangerous driving."

XwChriswX · 04-29-2013, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I think it's a liability thing. It's harder to sue SPK after getting hurt if SPK has proof that they warned you previously for "dangerous driving."

I get the legal side of it. But the reality/rational side is... come on.

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

So by that, then a 1:03:00 is a 63 seconds correct???

It's just, I take it very personally. I'm very compeditive. And honestly, I saw you as my primary opponent. And it really chaps my azz (and not in the way shado likes his azz chapped either...

)to have been cheated out of it by some stupid reason I wasn't even told. I Know you have skill which is why I was gunning for you that last race when I got behind you.

I concede that your name is at the top of the last page.

I'm not expecting to be a pro at an HDPE the first time out at all. Honestly I know I will be VERY hesitant/cautious (pussy) because its in MY car, my DD, my baby, etc etc. So I will be hesitant to push... Until my comfort grows, as you well know.

That's why I come to you with 50 questions all the time.

Of course you took it personally lol - I had a feeling you did when I never saw you after the race. I tried to shake hand's afterward, because I feel it is the sportsman-ly thing to do. No matter how hard a race I run, I respect ANYONE who goes out and puts their best effort, no matter how fast they go.

I knocked out a 70 average time on my first run (69.7x was the best in Group B for session 1). And then you knock out a 67 your FIRST time out compared to like, 70 as the best in your group - you think I didn't know you were going to be gunning for everyone up top?

Hell, I saw that and I KNEW you were no rookie at this, and I knew I'd be seeing you in the finale at some point. And I knew you'd be gunning for me, because I knew you felt you had something to prove: beat the MightyBobo at his own game. Sure enough I saw you that one corner before I immediately took it back (although if I remember right, we had some traffic right then that jacked us both up), and then never saw you again. I ran a tight line for that lap after I saw you, KNOWING you'd be going for any opening. I have no doubt you were all over the place behind me, just waiting for an opening, and good on you for that.

RACING is about closing those openings, never giving an opportunity. Whatever caused you to spin on turn 1, you shouldn't have. Period. You were pushing hard to pass, you found the limit, and you exceeded it. It's not a first in racing - happens all the time. Patience is one of the most amazing virtues - waiting for JUST that right moment and preparing your line, setting up a pass not one, not two, but maybe even three corners in advance.

So, here I am conceding to you: you were fastest on that track on that day. You should take nothing personally, it was a mistake. Mistakes happen in racing, and you must learn from them, else you risk repeating them. You have skill, so don't doubt yourself.

But, this old(er) dog knows some tricks, and next time I'll be coming out harder than before

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by aniceh

I spun out on the qualifying round. It was driver error, I didn't take anyone else out, when I stopped I was able to recover and continue, but I got a stop and go penalty. The fear of a repeat made me gunshy for the remaining two rounds. Not to mention the fact that the brakes on the third kart I got were absolute ****.

I got video of that, was RIGHT behind ya lol

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 10:17 PM

Watch professional racing enough and you'll notice that (aside from F1) the fastest car only wins 25% of the time. Racing is a lot like chess.

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

See, I would have just stuck it in there. Or helped you through the corner.

I'm ok with that, I got that kart so sideways so many times, would have just countersteared and been like, "trollololololol" as I drive off with ULTRA BOOST haha

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

But, this old(er) dog knows some tricks, and next time I'll be coming out harder than before

I'll just hang back and wait for you guys to take each other out.

XwChriswX · 04-29-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Of course you took it personally lol - I had a feeling you did when I never saw you after the race. I tried to shake hand's afterward, because I feel it is the sportsman-ly thing to do. No matter how hard a race I run, I respect ANYONE who goes out and puts their best effort, no matter how fast they go.

I knocked out a 70 average time on my first run (69.7x was the best in Group B for session 1). And then you knock out a 67 your FIRST time out compared to like, 70 as the best in your group - you think I didn't know you were going to be gunning for everyone up top?

Hell, I saw that and I KNEW you were no rookie at this, and I knew I'd be seeing you in the finale at some point. And I knew you'd be gunning for me, because I knew you felt you had something to prove: beat the MightyBobo at his own game. Sure enough I saw you that one corner before I immediately took it back (although if I remember right, we had some traffic right then that jacked us both up), and then never saw you again. I ran a tight line for that lap after I saw you, KNOWING you'd be going for any opening. I have no doubt you were all over the place behind me, just waiting for an opening, and good on you for that.

RACING is about closing those openings, never giving an opportunity. Whatever caused you to spin on turn 1, you shouldn't have. Period. You were pushing hard to pass, you found the limit, and you exceeded it. It's not a first in racing - happens all the time. Patience is one of the most amazing virtues - waiting for JUST that right moment and preparing your line, setting up a pass not one, not two, but maybe even three corners in advance.

So, here I am conceding to you: you were fastest on that track on that day. You should take nothing personally, it was a mistake. Mistakes happen in racing, and you must learn from them, else you risk repeating them. You have skill, so don't doubt yourself.

But, this old(er) dog knows some tricks, and next time I'll be coming out harder than before

I didn't see you after the race cause I figured you were set on your plans, and didn't want to distract/keep you from that.

I would have congratulated you on a good race, and to be fair you were not making it easy. Yeah we did have traffic come up and that's what put a wrench in the works because I didn't expect we'd catch up to them until the following straight, and then there we were right on them.

I think we need to do this again, and soon. Not a waiting until the fall thing.

I must beat the BoBo!

(Even though they pronounced it BooBoo)

aniceh · 04-29-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Watch professional racing enough and you'll notice that (aside from F1) the fastest car only wins 25% of the time. Racing is a lot like chess.

And Cwiz is like f*cking Vettel. Slow down, dammit! I want some actual competition!!!

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

I'm ok with that, I got that kart so sideways so many times, would have just countersteared and been like, "trollololololol" as I drive off with ULTRA BOOST haha

LOL if I decide to move you, you gon' move! URNHARDT!!!

XwChriswX · 04-29-2013, 10:22 PM

I was just so pissed after the first race with losing my camera and not being able to record my runs anymore, I just set out to have the fastest time possible. Frustration leads to precision for me.

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by XwChriswX

So we can conclude their Black Flag rules are worthless, and the "Time out" pow pow we got was also equally ridiculous.

I disagree, especially in your situation. Tough love here, however: imagine it was you in your 370Z pulling like a freight train on a little Miata and you SLAM on your brakes to "prevent hitting them". You're going to have an off-track adventure likely, and/or wreck INTO said Miata. And that is entirely your fault.

Karting not only teaches good car control, but it also teaches you safe practices for REAL racing. Plowing into a corner like that is an unsafe practice, and I'd expect to be punished suitably for endangering myself and the driver in front of me.

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by aniceh

And Cwiz is like f*cking Vettel. Slow down, dammit! I want some actual competition!!!

You'd better start hitting some AutoX or HPDE, then, lady

MightyBobo · 04-29-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I'll just hang back and wait for you guys to take each other out.

I'll just pull out my 9 shoot his tires out.

m4a1mustang · 04-29-2013, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

I disagree, especially in your situation. Tough love here, however: imagine it was you in your 370Z pulling like a freight train on a little Miata and you SLAM on your brakes to "prevent hitting them". You're going to have an off-track adventure likely, and/or wreck INTO said Miata. And that is entirely your fault.

Karting not only teaches good car control, but it also teaches you safe practices for REAL racing. Plowing into a corner like that is an unsafe practice, and I'd expect to be punished suitably for endangering myself and the driver in front of me.

Translation: Next time Bobo backs the corner up more than you like, pull out and make him :dealwithit: as you steal his apex.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I think it's a liability thing. It's harder to sue SPK after getting hurt if SPK has proof that they warned you previously for "dangerous driving." __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Watch professional racing enough and you'll notice that (aside from F1) the fastest car only wins 25% of the time. Racing is a lot like chess. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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