NOVA/DC/MD - Z's & Coffee, Saturdays at 10AM in [WHERE?!], VA & Columbia, MD

m4a1mustang · 03-08-2013, 01:22 PM

Trying to weasel my way out of dinner plans now so I can make sure I have my PSS on for the meat.

Masa · 03-08-2013, 01:22 PM

So excite!

m4a1mustang · 03-08-2013, 01:37 PM

successful weasel is successful

m4a1mustang · 03-08-2013, 01:38 PM

Oh, if my door cards don't show up today NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO LOOK AT MY INTERIOR.

Or inside my car, even.

MightyBobo · 03-08-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

very good talking points!

Gotta have ammunition, I've found.

Walking away is a good tactic, don't get me wrong, but an educated buyer is their worst nightmare. If you KNOW the direct competitors to the vehicle you'd like to purchase, and specific details as to WHY they are a potential purchase to you, they cant refute that.

Knowing competitor pricing, horsepower, handling, practicality, and gas mileage are easy points to learn. I'd rather walk into a Nissan dealership and say, "I'd like to buy a 370Z - give me a good reason why I should give you $34000 of my dollars for a 330 horsepower 2-seater sports car, versus $30000 for a 2+2 "sports" car with north of 400 horsepower and it even has a real trunk?" Make it impossible to argue against you without conceeding their price.

At that point, you may as well say, "How about we start at Invoice pricing, and we'll go from there". If you can't get invoice pricing, you may as well walk. Competition is stiff for the Z right now.

eastwest2300 · 03-08-2013, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

You ready to race tomorrow?

Race who? you?

m4a1mustang · 03-08-2013, 01:47 PM

I don't ever negotiate. I have a number and I just sit there until they agree to it.

FPenvy · 03-08-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Race who? you?

Yea brah after blades beats you I want seconds :you:

dmhenderson · 03-08-2013, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Gotta have ammunition, I've found.

Walking away is a good tactic, don't get me wrong, but an educated buyer is their worst nightmare. If you KNOW the direct competitors to the vehicle you'd like to purchase, and specific details as to WHY they are a potential purchase to you, they cant refute that.

Knowing competitor pricing, horsepower, handling, practicality, and gas mileage are easy points to learn. I'd rather walk into a Nissan dealership and say, "I'd like to buy a 370Z - give me a good reason why I should give you $34000 of my dollars for a 330 horsepower 2-seater sports car, versus $30000 for a 2+2 "sports" car with north of 400 horsepower and it even has a real trunk?" Make it impossible to argue against you without conceeding their price.

At that point, you may as well say, "How about we start at Invoice pricing, and we'll go from there". If you can't get invoice pricing, you may as well walk. Competition is stiff for the Z right now.

1) Go to USAA's car buying service and get their guaranteed price which is usually awesome.

2) Use the Carfax thing that shows you what everyone in your zip code paid for the same car. If the USAA price is lower than the Carfax price, you're good. If not, look elsewhere.

I actually walked into a dealership when I was buying my 09' Z and had them refuse to give me the USAA price so I walked out and reported them to USAA. Every other time I've used the service, it has worked like a charm.

eastwest2300 · 03-08-2013, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

Yea brah after blades beats you I want seconds :you:

Sorry man, I hate to dissappoint you, but its not happening.

m4a1mustang · 03-08-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Sorry man, I hate to dissappoint you, but its not happening.

The race or b1ades beating you?

m4a1mustang · 03-08-2013, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by dmhenderson

1) Go to USAA's car buying service and get their guaranteed price which is usually awesome.

2) Use the Carfax thing that shows you what everyone in your zip code paid for the same car. If the USAA price is lower than the Carfax price, you're good. If not, look elsewhere.

I actually walked into a dealership when I was buying my 09' Z and had them refuse to give me the USAA price so I walked out and reported them to USAA. Every other time I've used the service, it has worked like a charm.

USAA's car buying service is great to use.

FPenvy · 03-08-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by eastwest2300

Sorry man, I hate to dissappoint you, but its not happening.

Vagina.

eastwest2300 · 03-08-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

The race or b1ades beating you?

I dont know how FP got into the whole equation of racing me, but.....hmmmmm, thanks but no thanks.

eastwest2300 · 03-08-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by FPenvy

Vagina.

03-08-2013, 01:22 PM	#1171 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Trying to weasel my way out of dinner plans now so I can make sure I have my PSS on for the meat. b1adesofcha0s and Masa like this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	successful weasel is successful b1adesofcha0s and Masa like this. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Oh, if my door cards don't show up today NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO LOOK AT MY INTERIOR. Or inside my car, even. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

03-08-2013, 01:47 PM	#1177 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	I don't ever negotiate. I have a number and I just sit there until they agree to it. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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