NOVA/DC/MD - Z's & Coffee, Saturdays at 10AM in [WHERE?!], VA & Columbia, MD

4r3s · 03-08-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by italy3541

Sitting at the dealer right now n it's not looking good on the z. They r not moving in the price. But that may change cause my girl want either another rogue or a juke so maybe if I buy 2 cars I can get the deal I want

They have no reason to move on the price. Its still early in the month and you actually made the trip all the way there. The fact that you made the trip says to them that you are willing to buy at the current price. If you weren't happy with the price you should have never set foot in their shop. I have a feeling you are digging yourself into a hole here. They've got you by the balls, already talking a second car when you don't even like the price on the first. Walk away. Need to separate your emotions for the vehicles and walk away. They will call you in a week or two to continue negotiating.

dmhenderson · 03-08-2013, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

They have no reason to move on the price. Its still early in the month and you actually made the trip all the way there. The fact that you made the trip says to them that you are willing to buy at the current price. If you weren't happy with the price you should have never set foot in their shop. I have a feeling you are digging yourself into a hole here. They've got you by the balls, already talking a second car when you don't even like the price on the first. Walk away. Need to separate your emotions for the vehicles and walk away. They will call you in a week or two to continue negotiating.

Agree 100%

m4a1mustang · 03-08-2013, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

They have no reason to move on the price. Its still early in the month and you actually made the trip all the way there. The fact that you made the trip says to them that you are willing to buy at the current price. If you weren't happy with the price you should have never set foot in their shop. I have a feeling you are digging yourself into a hole here. They've got you by the balls, already talking a second car when you don't even like the price on the first. Walk away. Need to separate your emotions for the vehicles and walk away. They will call you in a week or two to continue negotiating.

x100

Cristobal09 · 03-08-2013, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

They have no reason to move on the price. Its still early in the month and you actually made the trip all the way there. The fact that you made the trip says to them that you are willing to buy at the current price. If you weren't happy with the price you should have never set foot in their shop. I have a feeling you are digging yourself into a hole here. They've got you by the balls, already talking a second car when you don't even like the price on the first. Walk away. Need to separate your emotions for the vehicles and walk away. They will call you in a week or two to continue negotiating.

Best advice right there,

Italy, WALK AWAY!

MightyBobo · 03-08-2013, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

They have no reason to move on the price. Its still early in the month and you actually made the trip all the way there. The fact that you made the trip says to them that you are willing to buy at the current price. If you weren't happy with the price you should have never set foot in their shop. I have a feeling you are digging yourself into a hole here. They've got you by the balls, already talking a second car when you don't even like the price on the first. Walk away. Need to separate your emotions for the vehicles and walk away. They will call you in a week or two to continue negotiating.

Listen to this guy.

Tell them the sales on the 370Z have blown ***, and a minor model refresh wont help it against major competitors such as the Mustang GT or a used Corvette. Your options here other than the terrible price they are offering are practically limitless.

Tell them you're walking to go look at a Mustang since it has 30% more horsepower, similar gas mileage, more practicality, and similar handling (better with the super durps, but whatever).

If you cave, you're only hurting yourself.

4r3s · 03-08-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by MightyBobo

Listen to this guy.

Tell them the sales on the 370Z have blown ***, and a minor model refresh wont help it against major competitors such as the Mustang GT or a used Corvette. Your options here other than the terrible price they are offering are practically limitless.

Tell them you're walking to go look at a Mustang since it has 30% more horsepower, similar gas mileage, more practicality, and similar handling (better with the super durps, but whatever).

If you cave, you're only hurting yourself.

very good talking points!

MightyBobo · 03-08-2013, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

very good talking points!

Gotta have ammunition, I've found.

Walking away is a good tactic, don't get me wrong, but an educated buyer is their worst nightmare. If you KNOW the direct competitors to the vehicle you'd like to purchase, and specific details as to WHY they are a potential purchase to you, they cant refute that.

Knowing competitor pricing, horsepower, handling, practicality, and gas mileage are easy points to learn. I'd rather walk into a Nissan dealership and say, "I'd like to buy a 370Z - give me a good reason why I should give you $34000 of my dollars for a 330 horsepower 2-seater sports car, versus $30000 for a 2+2 "sports" car with north of 400 horsepower and it even has a real trunk?" Make it impossible to argue against you without conceeding their price.

At that point, you may as well say, "How about we start at Invoice pricing, and we'll go from there". If you can't get invoice pricing, you may as well walk. Competition is stiff for the Z right now.

italy3541 · 03-08-2013, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by 4r3s

They have no reason to move on the price. Its still early in the month and you actually made the trip all the way there. The fact that you made the trip says to them that you are willing to buy at the current price. If you weren't happy with the price you should have never set foot in their shop. I have a feeling you are digging yourself into a hole here. They've got you by the balls, already talking a second car when you don't even like the price on the first. Walk away. Need to separate your emotions for the vehicles and walk away. They will call you in a week or two to continue negotiating.

trust me i know, this isnt my first time.. iv bought and sold 34 cars.. as for the part about not going to the dealer until they meet ur price i only partialy agree.. iv talked to many dealers and only got them to a certain point on the phone before. but when your there and they know ur ready to buy they usualy start to bargin.. they dont always look at people on the phone as a serious buyer.. so i call around and find a dealer that is willing to deal over the phone. then when i get to the point where we are close and i think i cant get them to move over the phone i go with with cash in hand and see if they change their minds.. its worked for me many times in the past..

unfortunatly this time it did not work.. they stayed firm on their price.. i was planning on buying 2 cars today but was saving that if we got to where i wanted to be kinda as a incentive to make them give me the deal. when i started to look for another z my girl decided she wanted a juke. so almost all the dealers that i have been talking to iv been working deals on 2 cars not just the z.

NO DEALER HAS EVER HAD ME BY THE BALLS.. i cant count how many times iv walked out of a dealership or told off a sales manager.. i never allow myself to get pushed around.. if u met me you would understand my personality wouldnt allow that to happen..

just aske the people who have met me from on here.. im what most would consider aggressive...

anyway to make a long story longer i wasted a total of 6 hours of my time. i got them down a lot while i was there but not to where i wanted to be. so after dealing with all the managers i told them thanks but i wont buy for that price..

so u know how close the deal ws.. i wanted a 2013 sprt 6speed z for 31k i got them down to 32,500. most would have jumped at it. but when i set a price i dont break it.. i have amazing self control, and i never let myself get emotionaly involved.. i walk into all dealers with the mind set that i will walk at any point and time.. there is always another dealer with a car i would want.. its just a matter of finding one who will do what it takes to make the sale...

eastwest2300 · 03-08-2013, 09:12 AM

You would like that... no thanks though, im not into all your ghey stuff, sorry.

m4a1mustang · 03-08-2013, 09:21 AM

I have to say after that I have no problem going to Anacostia now. I have a friend that bought a house there (WHYYY) so sometimes I pick her up or drop her off. She literally runs from car to her door.

Though that was with the Benz and the Mustang which could have been viewed as more drug-dealery cars than the S2K. Haven't tried with it yet.

eastwest2300 · 03-08-2013, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I have to say after that I have no problem going to Anacostia now. I have a friend that bought a house there (WHYYY) so sometimes I pick her up or drop her off. She literally runs from car to her door.

Though that was with the Benz and the Mustang which could have been viewed as more drug-dealery cars than the S2K. Haven't tried with it yet.

Dude, thats crazy, damn.

dmhenderson · 03-08-2013, 09:24 AM

lol

eastwest2300 · 03-08-2013, 09:33 AM

wowwwwwww steve... wowwwwwww

m4a1mustang · 03-08-2013, 09:34 AM

I know dude. I felt like Rambo when I left. Like a baws.

ZCarMan · 03-08-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I know dude. I felt like Rambo when I left. Like a baws.

Was that before or after you wiped the dookie from your drawers?

03-08-2013, 09:12 AM	#9 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 91,035 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684553	You would like that... no thanks though, im not into all your ghey stuff, sorry. __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	I have to say after that I have no problem going to Anacostia now. I have a friend that bought a house there (WHYYY) so sometimes I pick her up or drop her off. She literally runs from car to her door. Though that was with the Benz and the Mustang which could have been viewed as more drug-dealery cars than the S2K. Haven't tried with it yet. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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dmhenderson A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,930 Drives: AWD TT 370z Rep Power: 28	lol __________________

03-08-2013, 09:33 AM	#13 (permalink)
eastwest2300 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: South FL Posts: 91,035 Drives: '16QX70/'21 Supra3.0 Rep Power: 2684553	wowwwwwww steve... wowwwwwww __________________ Infiniti QX70 & Toyota Supra 3.0 Premium

03-08-2013, 09:34 AM	#14 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	I know dude. I felt like Rambo when I left. Like a baws. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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