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Old 01-23-2014, 06:04 PM   #31 (permalink)
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The Kawasaki Ninja 650R is actually a sweet bike and its not like it has loads of power
Having the extra pep is actually good riding in the streets as you have enough umph to get out of trouble
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Any bike can get you into trouble , my buddy's wife crashed on a 50cc scooter and had to go to the hospital

The 650r has better brakes , suspension and is more agile vs the 250

650r is a twin cyl with 60 ish HP to the back wheel

250r parallel 4 with 30 ish HP to the back wheel

If you want to get a small displacement bike I would consider the new ninja 300
Its fuel injected , better brakes , more tire options and a whopping 35hp
The body looks really cool also

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I sold my wifes Ninja 250 (that she decided she didnt want) after a season of riding for the same price we paid for it minus taxes. I have had very powerful bikes and im the only one that ended up riding hers. Guess what? I actually enjoyed it, I could actually push it just as hard as my 2011 ZX10r in some corners, of course with slower exit speed.

Everyone telling you to get a 250 I feel is a pretty season rider or at least knows a thing or two about bikes. If your worried about someone making fun of you screw them they are probably the one you will see in the news hanging from a power line, or reduced to a pile of goo. No one that has any sense will tell you to go buy a 600 for your first bike, especially a newer one. They are silly powerful!

When I purchased the ZX10r turned off traction and flipped to high power mode I couldnt believe they just sold me that bike not knowing my history at all. Luckily it wasnt my first bike and I knew what it was capable of. I could go on and on sorry...

Bottom line is think hard about this make the RIGHT choice. No one wants to see you get hurt. By the way im 6'0 220lbs. did I look a little funny on the 250 yes, but I rocked it like a champ Lol.
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Any bike can get you into trouble , my buddy's wife crashed on a 50cc scooter and had to go to the hospital

The 650r has better brakes , suspension and is more agile vs the 250

650r is a twin cyl with 60 ish HP to the back wheel

250r parallel 4 with 30 ish HP to the back wheel

If you want to get a small displacement bike I would consider the new ninja 300
Its fuel injected , better brakes , more tire options and a whopping 35hp
The body looks really cool also

You posted that while I was typing my reply. I have not looked at bikes in over a year in fear that I will go buy one. I had no idea of that 300, that is sick.
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I have rode for years...the 650 will be a great starter bike, DO NOT GET A 250!!!

and dont be afraid of a 1000cc. a 600cc will accelerate and get you into trouble faster than a 1000cc will...FACT
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I have rode for years...the 650 will be a great starter bike, DO NOT GET A 250!!!

and dont be afraid of a 1000cc. a 600cc will accelerate and get you into trouble faster than a 1000cc will...FACT


OP, don't let your ego/pride affect your decision. There is absolutely nothing wrong to start off with a 250. I guarantee you will have a lot of fun on the bike. Not to mention that you will, or at least should, have better control skills than people that started with 600cc+ bikes by the time you upgrade.
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not trying to ruffle feathers but its all about spending your money wisely. either you have bikes or you dont...in terms of the required basic skills...you can die or get hurt just as easy on a 50cc moped as you can a 1000cc streetbike.

this coming from someone who can quite literally ride wheelies in a circle at under 5mph. its a hobby of mine same as owning a cnc machine shop although i spend far more time in the shop now-a-days!
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I'm sure someone already mentioned this, but don't start on a 650. I have not owned a bike, however, I am strongly considering getting one once the weather gets nice and I've probably been looking at the same things you have. I'm stuck between a Ninja 300 or going with some type of supermoto so you could look at those or also consider a used Ninja 250 or CBR 250r and just sell it in a couple months once you decide to move up.

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…trust me my dude, I've been riding for 8-9 years now and you don't want to start out on a 600. I bought a CBR600RR for my first bike, brand new off the showroom floor. I even got the price down about 1k and sold it the following year because it wasn't enough power. I then stepped up to the CBR1000RR and I can tell a difference but as far as the handling and weight; there is none. You should really consider buying a used old bike if you're going to start out on a 600cc bike. You will be disappointed with it after the first season (especially if you have a crew you ride with).

If you're worried about getting in trouble with the bike, you will get in trouble on a 600cc bike as easily. My 600, I was able to top out at about 163mph (and yes you will try it at least once). With my 1000cc, I went 183mph before I backed out because I got scared. Both machines are amazing and will treat you right as long as you respect the bike and don't get too comfortable with it. I have totaled a bike before and I have been able to get up and get another because I understand my limitations.

People want to say that the more power you have, the more incline you are to using it. I would be the first to say that is a false statement. I will never want to experience 180 plus mph again; not even 120mph (which I do in my Z all the time). Its a different feeling between going that fast in a car vs a bike. Whatever you decide to do, make sure you do your research and take as many classes as you can in regards. Bikes aren't dangerous, it's the vehicles around us that are dangerous. Then there are those idiots that do stupid things to hurt themselves (I know a few). But good luck with whatever you decide to get.

Sidenote: please don't do like everyone else and get a suk. Get a Yam or the BMW S1000; straight beautiful
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2013 Beginner Sportbike Shootout part 2: Kawasaki Ninja 300 vs. Honda CBR500R vs. Kawasaki Ninja 650

The beggining is the ninja 300

Start at 3:18 for the ninja 650

I would listen to everyone else though, majority thinks against 650

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buying a brand new first bike is a TERRIBLE idea..that i will agree with..the cc means absolutely nothing.

buy a used bike, 600 or 1000cc, something that already has some damage but road worthy....ride it for 6 months or so, sell it and buy your brand new bike.
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The Ninja 650 is NOT the same as the Ninja 600
you guys think the 650 twin is the same as the 600 inline
its not and the same power delivery
one is like a tractor and the other is a screaming eagle
one has 100 + HP and the other 60 ish...

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