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Originally Posted by jofro6 that forbes article is fine, ive read it when it first came out yesterday. But its still all moot points. $500 price is not a lot,

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Old 06-12-2013, 03:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
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that forbes article is fine, ive read it when it first came out yesterday. But its still all moot points. $500 price is not a lot, especially when you compare it to what ps3 cost when it first came out... I guarantee sony had 2 price points set for ps4 based on what xbox said it was launching at. Xbox one is the same price as what 360 and kinect cost for people that bought them both when they came out.
Price is a big deal because of other effects it produces. When little Timmy wants a game console system and frugal parents compare, they compare pretty much by price. That puts Timmy on the cheaper system. Same with a whole host of people who barely afford a system plus the games/periphs. This gives you a base of people who will be on the cheaper system, regardless of any other quality. Game developers look at the cost to develop a game on a platform and the potential market numbers.

Just talking off the top of my head, I wonder how many game consoles have led their generation while flat out costing significantly more?
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Price is a big deal because of other effects it produces. When little Timmy wants a game console system and frugal parents compare, they compare pretty much by price. That puts Timmy on the cheaper system. Same with a whole host of people who barely afford a system plus the games/periphs. This gives you a base of people who will be on the cheaper system, regardless of any other quality. Game developers look at the cost to develop a game on a platform and the potential market numbers.

Just talking off the top of my head, I wonder how many game consoles have led their generation while flat out costing significantly more?

I totally understand your point with the pricing in family situations. I was just saying price point as moot, in our general grouping here, adults buying for themselves as this is a 'which are you buying' thread. As for developers choosing which system to develop for? I feel like most major games are on both systems, so obviously that cost and ease arent a real issue. SUre there are games that are only on one that you speak of, but disregarding the ones that im sure the companies pay for rights to an exclusive deal with, those games are almost blah for most hardcore gamers i feel. They arent sytem decision making games (the smaller games that are only on one due to ease of development) This is of course just my feelings from experience, and in no way based on factual numbers that ive researched lol

as for your other question, that would be interesting to know about expensive systems ruling over cheaper ones.
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I agree with almost all of this. The Halo series sells systems. I do not even play them anymore but I still buy them all because I remember all the good times I had with it when I was younger.

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I totally understand your point with the pricing in family situations. I was just saying price point as moot, in our general grouping here, adults buying for themselves as this is a 'which are you buying' thread. As for developers choosing which system to develop for? I feel like most major games are on both systems, so obviously that cost and ease arent a real issue. SUre there are games that are only on one that you speak of, but disregarding the ones that im sure the companies pay for rights to an exclusive deal with, those games are almost blah for most hardcore gamers i feel. They arent sytem decision making games (the smaller games that are only on one due to ease of development) This is of course just my feelings from experience, and in no way based on factual numbers that ive researched lol

as for your other question, that would be interesting to know about expensive systems ruling over cheaper ones.
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that forbes article is fine, ive read it when it first came out yesterday. But its still all moot points. $500 price is not a lot, especially when you compare it to what ps3 cost when it first came out... I guarantee sony had 2 price points set for ps4 based on what xbox said it was launching at. Xbox one is the same price as what 360 and kinect cost for people that bought them both when they came out. The only argument is now forcing everyone to buy a connect, but i feel real strongly that kinect will be a major bonus in the forgoing years and has monstrous potential with the new specs. But if $100 price difference is really your make or break budget decision, then people have larger financial issues at hand and probably shouldnt be buying any system. Plus if you end up buying the sony camera device you are at the same price point if not more (i dont know the sony camera price, but assume it will be atleast $100)

As for the used game portion, it is still a non issue until the game company itself makes it an issue. Who knows, not a single company may enforce the used game policy for Xbox One.

Like i said in my other post, im not a platform loyalist, and im not arguing that One is better than PS4. I do like to play devils advocate though and look at how big of an issue really is the objectifications people are making about how bad a system is compared to another
There isn't enough info to even compare the next gen kinect to move. As it stands right now. The PS4 standard controller will be pretty much the equal to current move controllers. So we need to see what the PS4 eye will bring in terms of next generation tech to the PS4. It's an uncharted comparo to even talk like it's an advantage.
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lololol theres honestly no way anyone can say xbox after that press conference yesterday. what a joke. requiring high speed internet?? way to alienate troops overseas and rural area owner microsoft.... what a joke

the ps4 is statisticly better in every way. costs $100 less. and microsoft has to use sony blue ray players in its box...
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I took in a lot of e3 coverage and I am far more intrigued by the One's lineup of games. TC's The Division is the only ps4 title Sony showed that blew me away. According to not always accurate wiki Division is not an exclusive, One/ps4.
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Someone should start a new thread: How much $ are you gonna scalp your PS4 or XB1 for?
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Someone should start a new thread: How much $ are you gonna scalp your PS4 or XB1 for?
If only I knew which one wants to supply less so they can have free marketing when they say they're "sold out."
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If only I knew which one wants to supply less so they can have free marketing when they say they're "sold out."
Good call. If it's the PS4, I'll scalp mine for 1 baby dragon soul. Because they are delicions.
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I'm on my fifth 360. Granted, I only paid for the first and fifth one due to the warranty extension they gave launch owners, but that's still an awful failure rate. My first PS3 is flaky, but still mostly works. I'll wait until MS has worked the kinks out of their product. I'll be damned if I ever buy the first run of their products again.
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I'm on my fifth 360. Granted, I only paid for the first and fifth one due to the warranty extension they gave launch owners, but that's still an awful failure rate. My first PS3 is flaky, but still mostly works. I'll wait until MS has worked the kinks out of their product. I'll be damned if I ever buy the first run of their products again.

same here i went through 5 of them. paid for the first one then kept swapping it out for a refurbished at gamestop. bought one of the new black ones the day they came out

im still on my original fat PS3 i got at launch
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same here i went through 5 of them. paid for the first one then kept swapping it out for a refurbished at gamestop. bought one of the new black ones the day they came out

im still on my original fat PS3 i got at launch
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I personally just wish I had more time and interest in handhelds again. Being mid-30s, I have a ton of nostalgia for gaming, especially the versatility and library of the Gameboy. And they're real games as opposed to flash-based mini-games on mobile touchscreen devices.

It's kinda sad, but I still chase after emulator devices that let me play old games. For instance, I have a GCW-Zero kickstarter device hopefully arriving soon...
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I am just curious to see how people on this forum feel about the new systems over the horizon. I would like to read everyone’s thoughts and concerns, pros and cons, etc.

My relationship with Microsoft and the Xbox go back to the prerelease of the original system. I was actually honored enough to be a beta tester for the Xbox, and again with Xbox Live before it was introduced. So I lean very much towards this franchise for my gaming experience.

That said I am very unsettled and torn between the Xbox One and PS4. They both look to be very solid systems to bring us entertainment for many years to come. What concerns me with the Xbox One is the direction Microsoft has chosen to go with, and if you have done any reading you know what I mean.

Let’s face it anymore these two companies give just about the same quality in performance and graphics. I do not see the point in arguing those facts it is pretty much mute. As stated above though Microsoft has chosen a rough road with it gaming side of the system. At this point the only thing that makes me want an Xbox One is this: Illumiroom Wiki

I’m sure I will end up with both systems within a couple years but I really want to make sure I choose the right system first. I will be buying two of which ever one I decide on (one for the wife as well). It has always been the Xbox in the past, but this time I can’t decide on my own.

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I know most of the Xboxes problems were due to overheating. Makes me wonder where all of these units were being stored while playing. I purchased one of the intercooler fans for each of my 360s and kept them out where they could ventilate properly, and I have had 0 issues. My original is still running like a champ.
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