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Old 12-02-2012, 08:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I got a personal sized molten cake with vanilla bean ice cream, a card with 3 sentences and an I'm sorry, don't be mad.
ms.pint- hummmm... i think your hubby is trying. is that his character?

that very last part 'dont be mad'... i think he could've left that out. but that's just me.

i will decide when im mad and when im not mad, kinda.

hope you enjoy the cake with icecream.
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ms.pint- hummmm... i think your hubby is trying. is that his character?

that very last part 'dont be mad'... i think he could've left that out. but that's just me.

i will decide when im mad and when im not mad, kinda.

hope you enjoy the cake with icecream.
Yeah that is his character. It's just a really long story on how we got here but I think it's time to go back to counseling.
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I got a personal sized molten cake with vanilla bean ice cream, a card with 3 sentences and an I'm sorry, don't be mad.
Pint honey~~

He is a bit slow, kinda realized it after the whole thing is done..

But can't write off his effort of trying to make it up...

Enjoy the dessert... smile..


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ms.pint- i think it really depends on the shop. speedshops in my area are very familiar with both stud-replacement type and bolt-on type and dont seem to mind.
on this one, it really depends on the shop.

I can understand some shops afraid of those cheapy-spacers...

But I bet there's many other will do it no problem.
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Which brands are you looking at for now? I've been doing some info search on Stillen, Whiteline and Hotchkis.

And it seems the Stillen one is the most recommended for street use, which is suitable for me. Most people suggest the Whiteline might be too stiff for street use..

Regarding the sliding concern, I bet most of them have the collars to stop the bar from sliding, here's a pic for the stillen one, I can see the collars on both front and rear. The price is actually very good too.

He's a nice dude around here... he always speak out his opinions, and you know... opinions, it's sometimes really a personal preference matter.

But I can say he's a nice guy no cockiness..

Mr.kenchan, time to see more posts...!!
mr.alcheng - ive not looked into deeply at the j-brand ones but i was thinking cusco.. but those are 1mm thicker than the whitelines and if you're saying that whitelines are too stiff for street use, i might be better off with the stillens.

do you know the diameter of the stillens?

i will see what i can do about the iggydoor. i put so many locks on it i think i forgot which key goes to which lock.


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Yeah that is his character. It's just a really long story on how we got here but I think it's time to go back to counseling.
ms.pint- if he was like that from the getgo then some folks are like that...i mean some folks just suck at showing affection.

but if he changed over the years then counseling sounds like a good step. after a long time together sometimes we get too comfy with each other and loose the sense of appreciation towards one another.

i will say that im not a big fondue fan. imho, fondue is for women to take forever to eat at the table with their girlfriends gossiping over this and that and blah blah blah. but my kids and i endured the 3+hrs at the fondue place when my wife requested we go there for her bday.
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mr.alcheng - ive not looked into deeply at the j-brand ones but i was thinking cusco.. but those are 1mm thicker than the whitelines and if you're saying that whitelines are too stiff for street use, i might be better off with the stillens.

do you know the diameter of the stillens?

i will see what i can do about the iggydoor. i put so many locks on it i think i forgot which key goes to which lock.
I found this somewhere in the forum:



The average diameter of all are about 27-30 on the front and 25-28 on the rear, besides diameter, the stiffness of the material is a factor, how much the % of the aftermarket is stiffer than the stock is what I'm looking at.

Regarding the Cusco sway bar, it's about 124% stiffer on the front...

But I am a bit on the rear when their website says it's 238% stiffer than the stock......

The Stillen one is adjustable, and I believe also the Whiteline.

I will check the price with my local shop, if the price is right.... mmm.... Christmas shopping...
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I found this somewhere in the forum:



The average diameter of all are about 27-30 on the front and 25-28 on the rear, besides diameter, the stiffness of the material is a factor, how much the % of the aftermarket is stiffer than the stock is what I'm looking at.

Regarding the Cusco sway bar, it's about 124% stiffer on the front...

But I am a bit on the rear when their website says it's 238% stiffer than the stock......

The Stillen one is adjustable, and I believe also the Whiteline.

I will check the price with my local shop, if the price is right.... mmm.... Christmas shopping...
I am extremely happy with the Hotchkis.
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I found this somewhere in the forum:

The average diameter of all are about 27-30 on the front and 25-28 on the rear, besides diameter, the stiffness of the material is a factor, how much the % of the aftermarket is stiffer than the stock is what I'm looking at.

Regarding the Cusco sway bar, it's about 124% stiffer on the front...

But I am a bit on the rear when their website says it's 238% stiffer than the stock......

The Stillen one is adjustable, and I believe also the Whiteline.

I will check the price with my local shop, if the price is right.... mmm.... Christmas shopping...
thanks for the info, mr.alcheng. i do agree that material does play a big role in the stiffness regardless of diameter of the bar.

looking at the vs stock, i think max 150% is about where i want my bar to be. i dont want my car stiff, i want to lessen the initial turn-in softness the car is programed with. but at the same time..

i can achieve this either with the swaybar or with stiffer dampers. this is where ive been trying to decide. i have a feeling i might be happier swapping out the dampers as it can also eliminate the normal-car-like feel while going over big dips. it's not a huge deal for me, but just trying to decide if i want to commit on the entire process (ordeal) or just leave it alone since the car drives pretty well.
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mr.alcheng - ive not looked into deeply at the j-brand ones but i was thinking cusco.. but those are 1mm thicker than the whitelines and if you're saying that whitelines are too stiff for street use, i might be better off with the stillens.

do you know the diameter of the stillens?

i will see what i can do about the iggydoor. i put so many locks on it i think i forgot which key goes to which lock.




ms.pint- if he was like that from the getgo then some folks are like that...i mean some folks just suck at showing affection.

but if he changed over the years then counseling sounds like a good step. after a long time together sometimes we get too comfy with each other and loose the sense of appreciation towards one another.

i will say that im not a big fondue fan. imho, fondue is for women to take forever to eat at the table with their girlfriends gossiping over this and that and blah blah blah. but my kids and i endured the 3+hrs at the fondue place when my wife requested we go there for her bday.
something to consider is whitelines are solid while stillen, eibach, hotchkis are hollow. Are Cusco hollow or solid?
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I got a personal sized molten cake with vanilla bean ice cream, a card with 3 sentences and an I'm sorry, don't be mad.
I am sorry, but that is pretty lame. Life is too short to not appreciate those whom we love and, in my case, love us back for reasons unknown. Maybe there are some in the world who do not recognize milestones such as birthdays and anniversaries as being events to celebrate, to take a minute to exrpess how much the other person means to them. Who knows the reasons for those who seem to take things and people for granted? I don't.

Make him pay a price. You know how to do that, right? You have more power than you amy realize and you should put it to use. Get cold and distant for a little while.
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I am sorry, but that is pretty lame. Life is too short to not appreciate those whom we love and, in my case, love us back for reasons unknown. Maybe there are some in the world who do not recognize milestones such as birthdays and anniversaries as being events to celebrate, to take a minute to exrpess how much the other person means to them. Who knows the reasons for those who seem to take things and people for granted? I don't.

Make him pay a price. You know how to do that, right? You have more power than you amy realize and you should put it to use. Get cold and distant for a little while.
I think I need to PM you the entire story. I'm not all innocent in it either but I thought we had agreed to work together on recovering what we had.
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