Anyone here into firearms?

BlackZeda · 01-19-2013, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

If we see a 10 round limit on magazine capacity take effect in the future...

Do you have a clear understanding of what they mean by the 10 round limit? Does that mean new weapons and magazines can't have more than a 10 round capacity, or that actually carrying or shooting a weapon with more than 10 rounds would be illegal?

MacCool · 01-19-2013, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda

Do you have a clear understanding of what they mean by the 10 round limit? Does that mean new weapons and magazines can't have more than a 10 round capacity, or that actually carrying or shooting a weapon with more than 10 rounds would be illegal?

I don't see where any legislation has been introduced into either house that specifically addresses magazine capacity. All we have so far is Diane Feinstein's declared intent, wherein she proposes:

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Ban large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds

AFAIK, nobody has seen any specific bill (yet), so that actual language isn't available. IOW, we don't know what any such bill looks like, or how it will be modified in committee, or what the final voted bill says, or how it will be reconciled in Conference Committee with any House bill that might get submitted, modified, and passed.

In the Democrat-controlled Senate, Harry Reid (D-Nevada) said the following about Feinstein's proposal concepts:

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Let’s be realistic,” Reid recently told PBS’s “Nevada Week in Review.” “In the Senate, we’re going to do what we think can get through the House, and I’m not going to go through a bunch of gyrations just to say we’ve done something. If we’re really legislators, the purpose of it is to pass legislation. Is it something that can pass the Senate? Maybe. Is it something that can pass the House? I doubt it,”

It's not even certain that Senator Leahy (Chairman of Senate Judiciary Committee and "C"-rated by the NRA) will even let Feinstein's bill on the Committee floor for debate.

The one hooker in the deal relative to the Judiciary Committee is if Senator Feinstein gets the chairmanship. Reportedly, Senator Leahy wants the Chairmanship of the Senate Approprations Committee, now vacant after Senator Inouye's death. That would leave Judicary open for Feinstein, who is a very senior senator. THEN her bill might get a hearing before the committee, but given Harry Reid's position, it's not clear how much traction it will get, or whether he will let it on the floor for a vote if it does pass committee.

Even if it did get to the Senate floor, it's far from clear that it would pass. And even if it did pass, it's highly unlikely any companion bill would pass the House.

The problem with all of this is whether compromises might take place to get something passed. IMHO, the focal point of any such compromise could be magazine capacities. Depending on many factors such a magazine capacity limit might or might not include a grandfather clause like the 1994 AWB had in it.

Wheels within wheels. Bottom line--we just don't know anything about magazine capacities yet and rampant speculation is way, way premature.

xdeslitx · 01-19-2013, 02:14 AM

The way i see it is shot placent...doesnt matter if youre carrying bigger caliber if you cant shoot it straight.

On another note i live in commie fornia where theres a 10rd limit but i have 23rnd mags for my G34...

m4a1mustang · 01-19-2013, 03:52 PM

We'll see what happens. Really wish I had a free lower right now.

ZeeingAround · 01-19-2013, 09:44 PM

Can't get magazines with more than 10 rounds? My 3D printer says otherwise.

What is it with this magic number 10? As if that makes any kind of difference. The magic bullet that counts is your vote. Use it.

m4a1mustang · 01-21-2013, 02:01 PM

Stopped by a local gun shop today... depressing sight to say the least.

m4a1mustang · 01-21-2013, 04:32 PM

now now boys.

edub370 · 01-21-2013, 05:37 PM

Just built my first AR-15 lower last night. its about 75% done. (rguns lower, bushmaster guts) will probably upgrade to a geissele trigger later

Got the lower receiver and clip right before prices went thru the roof on em. now i just need a buffer tube/spring/ to complete the lower.

not sure about which upper to go with right now. free float something or other. torn between .223 and .300 blackout right now tho

UNKNOWN_370 · 01-21-2013, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by edub370

Just built my first AR-15 lower last night. its about 75% done. (rguns lower, bushmaster guts) will probably upgrade to a geissele trigger later

Got the lower receiver and clip right before prices went thru the roof on em. now i just need a buffer tube/spring/ to complete the lower.

not sure about which upper to go with right now. free float something or other. torn between .223 and .300 blackout right now tho

Amazon.com, you can find a leapers UTG buffer assembly. UTG buffers are pretty good quality and low priced. You can get that now to make your rifle functional. THen get something HQ later. For the price. You can't go wrong with the UTG buffer assembly.

m4a1mustang · 01-22-2013, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Amazon.com, you can find a leapers UTG buffer assembly. UTG buffers are pretty good quality and low priced. You can get that now to make your rifle functional. THen get something HQ later. For the price. You can't go wrong with the UTG buffer assembly.

I guess I understand this from a "working rifle, now" point of view. But in the end you spend more money doing it twice. And I don't think the high grade stuff is all that much more expensive. Not to mention you are getting 7075T6 vs. 6061 which is going to be a big deal if your rifle sees a lot of hard use.

Granted it's probably very difficult to find any of the top tier stuff in stock at the moment.

xdeslitx · 01-22-2013, 06:07 PM

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UNKNOWN_370 · 01-23-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

I guess I understand this from a "working rifle, now" point of view. But in the end you spend more money doing it twice. And I don't think the high grade stuff is all that much more expensive. Not to mention you are getting 7075T6 vs. 6061 which is going to be a big deal if your rifle sees a lot of hard use.

Granted it's probably very difficult to find any of the top tier stuff in stock at the moment.

the high grade parts aren't available right now. I know cuzi been buying parts. The UTG i recommended cuz i seen people run them and they run well. PERIOD... And they ARE available. Thanks for your input though

MacCool · 01-23-2013, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

the high grade parts aren't available right now. I know cuzi been buying parts. The UTG i recommended cuz i seen people run them and they run well. PERIOD... And they ARE available. Thanks for your input though

I understand the availability problem, but I could NEVER bring myself to recommend offshore imported Leapers-UTG rifle parts to ANYONE, even the most casual plinker, even for a rifle that would be nothing more than a range toy.

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UNKNOWN_370 · 01-22-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by edub370

Just built my first AR-15 lower last night. its about 75% done. (rguns lower, bushmaster guts) will probably upgrade to a geissele trigger later

Got the lower receiver and clip right before prices went thru the roof on em. now i just need a buffer tube/spring/ to complete the lower.

not sure about which upper to go with right now. free float something or other. torn between .223 and .300 blackout right now tho

Oh E, just buy both barrels... Why not? You can swap between cal.

.300 blackout is not worth it if you don't spend cash on supersonic ammo, but WITH supersonic, It has AK range & with better accuracy. Downside is.. Supersonic .300blkt is veeery pricey, but i think worth it.

I'm trying to build two rifles, one dedicated 6.8 and a 5.56/.300blkt modular rifle.

edub370 · 01-22-2013, 08:17 AM

yea, its kinda a "get what u can get" market right now, but i'm trying to be patient. i'll have to see whats available right now as far as buffers go.

anyone have any info on the .300 blackout vs the .223

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edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 21	Just built my first AR-15 lower last night. its about 75% done. (rguns lower, bushmaster guts) will probably upgrade to a geissele trigger later Got the lower receiver and clip right before prices went thru the roof on em. now i just need a buffer tube/spring/ to complete the lower. not sure about which upper to go with right now. free float something or other. torn between .223 and .300 blackout right now tho m4a1mustang likes this. __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq Last edited by edub370; 01-21-2013 at 05:50 PM.

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xdeslitx A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tu-jungle, CA Posts: 13,045 Drives: Yaris Rep Power: 64	The way i see it is shot placent...doesnt matter if youre carrying bigger caliber if you cant shoot it straight. On another note i live in commie fornia where theres a 10rd limit but i have 23rnd mags for my G34...

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xdeslitx A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Tu-jungle, CA Posts: 13,045 Drives: Yaris Rep Power: 64	from Nordic Components Facebook page: NOTICE: We are unable to process credit card transactions at this time. Intuit Merchant Services has told us that they will NOT process anymore transactions and may put a freeze our accounts because we sell firearms related products. I was told that they are backed by Chase Banks. DO NOT conduct business with these financial institutions if you care about the Constitution of the United States, the Second Amendment or your RIGHTS as a firearms owner. We, as firearms owners, are under attack. I wonder how many of these anti-gun banks received Bail-out money from the current administration? We are working on getting set up with a firearm friendly processor and hope to be back on line to serve you quickly.

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edub370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2011 Location: KCMO Posts: 3,458 Drives: 09 370z S/T 6MT Rep Power: 21	yea, its kinda a "get what u can get" market right now, but i'm trying to be patient. i'll have to see whats available right now as far as buffers go. anyone have any info on the .300 blackout vs the .223 __________________ 09 370Z ST 6MT//Injen CAI//Greddy CBE//TP//TSW's//Swifts//Stillen lip//Whiteline sways 326whp/268tq Last edited by edub370; 01-22-2013 at 08:25 AM.