Anyone here into firearms?

MacCool · 07-12-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by m4a1mustang

Yep, Gen 4. I think I'm going to only get one right now. Probably the 19 because I remember it feeling better in my hand than the 17.

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Interesting thread at M4Carbine on ejection/extraction issues on the Gen 4 and later Gen 3 Glocks. To be sure, a lot of it is classic Internet mental masturbation, but erratic ejection really is a hallmark of the later Glocks. I have both a G17 and a G19 and both will put a casing on the bill of my hat with fair regularity.

Skimming through this thread will shed some light. Don't try to read it all.

Glock Extractor Issues Gen 4 - Gen 3 - M4Carbine.net Forums

xdeslitx · 07-12-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

Interesting thread at M4Carbine on ejection/extraction issues on the Gen 4 and later Gen 3 Glocks. To be sure, a lot of it is classic Internet mental masturbation, but erratic ejection really is a hallmark of the later Glocks. I have both a G17 and a G19 and both will put a casing on the bill of my hat with fair regularity.

Skimming through this thread will shed some light. Don't try to read it all.

Glock Extractor Issues Gen 4 - Gen 3 - M4Carbine.net Forums

ive read about the gen 4 problems too when i was looking into buying my 34

MacCool · 07-12-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by xdeslitx

ive read about the gen 4 problems too when i was looking into buying my 34

The most famous problems were with the recoil springs on the Gen 4. Replacing them has pretty much fixed that problem, but the ejection problems remain. Randy Lee (Apex Tactical) has had hit-or-miss success with replacing the extractor relative to stopping the stovepipes, but the ultimate solution to kicking those casings well out to 4:00 where they belong appears to be lowering the ejection port too. He just moved Apex into a new facility and is still setting up so they're not doing any work just yet, but he's looking at developing a new machined extractor (instead of the current MIM version or the previous cast design - both of which have been problematic) as well as offering slide milling services.

I'm relatively new to Glocks but I confess I find the erratic ejection annoying. I don't get as worked up about it as some of the ninjas over at M4C, however, as long as its not associated with malfunction.

xdeslitx · 07-12-2012, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool

The most famous problems were with the recoil springs on the Gen 4. Replacing them has pretty much fixed that problem, but the ejection problems remain. Randy Lee (Apex Tactical) has had hit-or-miss success with replacing the extractor relative to stopping the stovepipes, but the ultimate solution to kicking those casings well out to 4:00 where they belong appears to be lowering the ejection port too. He just moved Apex into a new facility and is still setting up so they're not doing any work just yet, but he's looking at developing a new machined extractor (instead of the current MIM version or the previous cast design - both of which have been problematic) as well as offering slide milling services.

I'm relatively new to Glocks but I confess I find the erratic ejection annoying. I don't get as worked up about it as some of the ninjas over at M4C, however, as long as its not associated with malfunction.

i dont know if this applies to glocks but from what ive seen in 1911s if you go with a lower weight recoil spring, it keeps the slide back longer when you fire.
shouldnt this have stopped the stovepipes?
im surprised changing the recoil spring didnt totally fix the stovepiping issues as well

im relatively new to all guns, just info ive heard and tried with my 1911 in competitions