Anyone here into firearms?

Skeeterbop

Anyone have any experience with S&W M&P in .40S&W? i.e. how does it feel, shoot, is it a good ccw pistol? I ordered one as a commemorative purchase through my battalion for out deployment and hopefully will get it by the end of the month. It comes with a case, 3 magazines, kydex holster for pistol and magazines, a speed loader, and a lock.

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MacCool

Hmmm...opinions vary on those brands, but generally they're not highly regarded among people knowledgeable about that class of rifle/carbine.


I have a S&W M&P long slide in 9mm. It's a good weapon. Mine was certainly improved by adding a DCAEK from Apex Tactical. I don't use it for CCW. I think that the compact version would be an acceptable choice for that purpose, however. There are some problems with them...point of impact can be notably variable relative to the ammo used, and they do have a tendency to be sensitive to slide release when a magazine is slammed home on slide lock, such as in a tactical reload.

Skeeterbop

When you say notably, are we talking 2-3 inches or is it an even bigger shift?

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MacCool

Honestly, I don't know...more like a couple of inches at 25 yards I think. It's never been something I've seen to be an issue in several thousand rounds through my gun, but I've seen it reported about the M&P. It's generally reported as a greater-than-expected fall-off in POI from 7 yards to 25 yards when using lighter bullet weights, and it appears to be more of an issue in the .40 cal. Now, I almost exclusively shoot PMC Bronze 115 gr. bullets and, as I say, I don't see any accuracy problems. My suspicion when I see things like that is that it's shooter-related rather than equipment. I do note that the M&P with stock sights is one where there is a disparity between sight height and lining up the three dots. In my experience, line up the three dots accurately and it will shoot dead on, but in a quick sight picture, one might inadvertently line up the top of the front sight with the top of the rear sight blade and that will cause it to shoot about 2 inches high at 25 yards. It holds very nice groups with a good trigger, but it will **** to the right on pull with their typical stock trigger. The DCAEK is a cheap and very simple modification that replaces the sear, sear spring/plunger, and striker block and really cleans up the trigger. The stock trigger will smooth out a lot over time they day, but I didn't want to wait and replaced mine right away.

I do fairly often get the slide to release on seating a magazine on a tactical reload. I don't mind that much, but it does give instructors the heebie-jeebies from a safety standpoint at courses with a lot of shooters on the line.

Overall, I really like my M&P as a range and course gun. It's been accurate and absolutely reliable for me.

semtex

For my taste, they're too thick for CCW. I have the same issue with Glocks though, so maybe it's just me. I prefer 1911s for CCW.

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MacCool

I agree with that. I prefer single-stacks for CCW and frequently use a Walther PPS in 9mm for carry, if and when I carry. It's a very slim pistol and conceals very well.

I'm one of those rare shooters who doesn't have a yearning for a 1911. Just not something that interests me, but I acknowledge the attraction many people have for it.

tvfreakazoid

I called glock yesterday and they are sending out the new spring. Hopefully this will solve the problem.

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tvfreakazoid

has anyone tried froglube for their firearms? Supposedly it works great. Watched some youtube vid and what not.

Just curious on your thoughts.

Frog Lube

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tvfreakazoid

Is there a hogue grip for the gen4 19's?

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MacCool

Like automobile lubricants, weapon lube concepts tend to be WAY overthought, IMHO.

ImportConvert

Tried it, but not a fan. Smells nice, stays put, but I believe wintergreen oil is what the main ingredient is. Consider, the claims made, and then consider that wintergreen oil has indeed been used inside cannon barrels historically, has the same smell, etc., has been used to loosen rusted bolts on ships, and other saline prevalent areas, has been used when rubbed into joints to ease pain.

Basically, the claims are the same as the historical uses of the oil, and one of the stories is that it was found in a cannon barrel...

Sounds like it to me.

Wintergreen oil isn't the greatest lube, though. Apparently, not the best rust prevention, either, based on every test I have seen with Froglube and the one I conducted myself.

Until further notice, I use Breakfree CLP for anti-corrosion, and LaRue MG lube and TW25B as a lubricant.