Anyone here into firearms?

frost · 08-27-2011, 10:36 PM

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Glock is sold. New owner taking delivery tomorrow.

My short list:
Walther PK380/P99
1911 (still haven't decided which maker)
AR-15

Oh, and a mossberg 500

ImportConvert · 09-01-2011, 07:10 AM

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Oh, and a mossberg 500

I just bought a 590A1 SPX for a friend of mine.

My observations:

Very gritty action, rust in the chamber upon delivery (very light, and no, it wasn't brown packing grease/cosmoline). A little rust/bluing remover fixed that, and running about 200 rounds through it slicked it up VERY! well.

It's not a pretty gun, the front-sight is a hair canted (3-4*), but it's a brick out-house, and it will hold a 12" pattern at 40 yards with Federal 8-pellet Flite Control reduced-recoil buck, along with shooting slugs to same POA as the buck.

I really like it, and it's a good gun, the Glock of shotguns, as it were.

The mag-spring is weak, though. See about getting a Wolf upgrade or something. (this is for the full-length tube guns)

ImportConvert · 09-01-2011, 07:07 AM

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On my short-list:

Glock 17
Kel-Tec Sub 2000 Glock 9mm
Walther P99
Ruger LCP
AR-15
A 1911

It's a disease

If you MUST get a 1911, I strongly recommend a Wilson CQB if you're after a full-size. When my Supergrade wouldn't run, Wilson refunded my money on it. Les Baer just thumbed their nose at me when my TRS refused to run/looked like some idiot milled the frame with a drill press and rat-tail file in a prison work-shop, etc.

I hate 1911's because I think they are full of foibles and a relic of the past, so I cannot advise ANYONE to buy one, but if you must, Wilson Combat WILL! make sure you are satisfied. They even offered to build me an entirely new Tactical Supergrade, but I just told them "no thanks, I want to go buy something else" because they had gone over mine 3 times already, once when they made it, and twice more for repairs, and it just kept ******** the bed.

However, they made things right, and are a great company. I bought from Joe Rankin, just google him and Wilson Combat. He has great prices and is easy to deal with. I feel bad for asking him to refund the gun through Wilson for me, but business is business, and I didn't pay $4200 for a gun that had to go back to the factory twice and still wouldn't perform correctly.

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So the gf wants to start carrying, and thankfully she decided that she would like to carry on her person instead of in a purse... so we are looking at the little .380s. Kel-Tec P3AT, Ruger LCP, and Kahr p380... all small enough to carry mostly unnoticed IWB for a female.

I am pushing for the Kahr, even if I have to pay for it.

The Kahr CM9 is also an option... just have to get our hands on one first.

See if she will go for a 9mm. The 147gr loads that are now available, like the RA9T expand at low (sub-combact barrel) velocities, and don't "snap" hard, it's more like a push, and very controllable. Stay away from the 124 and 127gr +P and +P+ stuff, she might be really turned off by that, depending on the type of personality she is.

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I gotta say, I love my Glock but I am not in love with it. I love that it's dead reliable, shoots well, and really just does whatever I ask of it... but aside from that it's really boring. It will remain my primary carry gun and it and my future Glocks will be my workhorses, but **** me if they aren't boring! Love 'em for it, though.

That's part of why I love it. It's pure function. There is no art to it, just function. When it's all on the line, that's what I want. You don't send an artist into battle, you send in some meathead with a big gun and lots of muscle who's bent on killing the other guy. That's kindof how I view my Glock, in a sense. It's not going to make anyone oooh or ahhhh over the trigger, but it's meant to keep me alive, not win a pageant.

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I have a weird OCD thing about 1911s that if I finally purchase one, I must have a matching one. 1911s have to be in pairs.

Then buy 4 so you can sell the 2 that don't work, lol

m4a1mustang · 09-01-2011, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ImportConvert

If you MUST get a 1911, I strongly recommend a Wilson CQB if you're after a full-size. When my Supergrade wouldn't run, Wilson refunded my money on it. Les Baer just thumbed their nose at me when my TRS refused to run/looked like some idiot milled the frame with a drill press and rat-tail file in a prison work-shop, etc.

I hate 1911's because I think they are full of foibles and a relic of the past, so I cannot advise ANYONE to buy one, but if you must, Wilson Combat WILL! make sure you are satisfied. They even offered to build me an entirely new Tactical Supergrade, but I just told them "no thanks, I want to go buy something else" because they had gone over mine 3 times already, once when they made it, and twice more for repairs, and it just kept ******** the bed.

I love the feel of 1911s for a pure range or display gun. They just look great and feel great to me. And of course the design has a lot of history.

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See if she will go for a 9mm. The 147gr loads that are now available, like the RA9T expand at low (sub-combact barrel) velocities, and don't "snap" hard, it's more like a push, and very controllable. Stay away from the 124 and 127gr +P and +P+ stuff, she might be really turned off by that, depending on the type of personality she is.

The problem is size for concealed carry, which is why something like the Ruger LCP would probably work best. She'd likely have a higher carry % with a gun like that over a pocket 9mm, which is still considerably larger than the LCP.

She is a fine shot, though. 2" groupings at 7 yards with my G26 with both the 115gr FMJ target rounds and 124gr +p Gold Dots.

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That's part of why I love it. It's pure function. There is no art to it, just function. When it's all on the line, that's what I want. You don't send an artist into battle, you send in some meathead with a big gun and lots of muscle who's bent on killing the other guy. That's kindof how I view my Glock, in a sense. It's not going to make anyone oooh or ahhhh over the trigger, but it's meant to keep me alive, not win a pageant.

Yup

ImportConvert · 09-01-2011, 02:39 PM

Sorry, I was out piloting my rocket ship around town getting my fingerprint cards filled out and mailing off my Form 4 stuff.

m4a1mustang · 09-01-2011, 02:42 PM

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Sorry, I was out piloting my rocket ship around town getting my fingerprint cards filled out and mailing off my Form 4 stuff.

m4a1mustang · 08-27-2011, 10:40 PM

I also want a Walther PPK.

frost · 08-27-2011, 10:40 PM

Ya know, never got into the look of that one.

m4a1mustang · 08-27-2011, 10:43 PM

I think it's beautiful. The only reason I want it is so I can look at it. And maybe reenact some Bond scenes in the house. Doesn't even need to work.

frost · 08-27-2011, 10:46 PM

I think I like the piece of ****, durable look. The kind that looks like you can throw if off a mountain and it will retain its looks.

The only exception I can think of are some well done 1911s, and the tiger-striped desert eagle, of which I would LOVE to own.

m4a1mustang · 08-27-2011, 10:51 PM

Why the PK380? Seems a little too big to be a .380, IMO.

frost · 08-27-2011, 10:54 PM

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Why the PK380? Seems a little too big to be a .380, IMO.

Kind of torn, I like the looks of the 380 much more than I do the p99, but would prefer the 9mm cartridge of the p99. I will probably end up with the p99 because performance trumps looks.

ImportConvert · 09-01-2011, 06:58 AM

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Kind of torn, I like the looks of the 380 much more than I do the p99, but would prefer the 9mm cartridge of the p99. I will probably end up with the p99 because performance trumps looks.

Good call, but before you do, check this little guy out, it's on my short list to T&E and either sell or keep, depending on results.

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Like a mini-glock, lol. I hope they run 100%. If so, will be my next handgun.

m4a1mustang · 08-27-2011, 10:52 PM

Oh, re: the PK series... I wouldn't mind a P22 for plinking.

m4a1mustang · 08-27-2011, 10:57 PM

It does look great.

But yeah, the only time I am going to go below 9mm in caliber is when it's limited by the overall size of the gun... like the LCP.

Though I don't discount the .380... I'd never want to be on the receiving end of one.

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	I think it's beautiful. The only reason I want it is so I can look at it. And maybe reenact some Bond scenes in the house. Doesn't even need to work. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

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m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6964	It does look great. But yeah, the only time I am going to go below 9mm in caliber is when it's limited by the overall size of the gun... like the LCP. Though I don't discount the .380... I'd never want to be on the receiving end of one. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!