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Chuck33079 05-17-2013 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by faya (Post 2320022)
Hi! This is my first post on this thread. Anyone who has a kimber 1911? If you were to choose between custom eclipse target vs custom cdp II, what would it be? Thanks in advance:)


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I've never known anyone who's had a good experience with a Kimber. I'd rather have a loaded Springfield for less money, or step up to something like a Les Baer or Dan Wesson.

UNKNOWN_370 05-17-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2314994)
After registering the firearm with the Federal Government by filling out the 4473, of course.

Texas is one state where a NICS check isn't required of people with a CHL. Despite Texas' otherwise mildly restrictive handgun laws, skipping NICS is "common sense" IMHO if you've already undergone a background check for the CHL.

Exactly, and any infraction, the first thing you lose is your CHL. So here, you gotta walk straight like an arrow.

faya 05-17-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2320031)
I've never known anyone who's had a good experience with a Kimber. I'd rather have a loaded Springfield for less money, or step up to something like a Les Baer or Dan Wesson.

Okay, thanks!:) that sounds a good help. More thoughts are welcome!:)


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FireDan50 05-17-2013 04:24 PM

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Finally got my foregrip rail from Israel...I'm probably going to change this set up later.

Chuck33079 05-17-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by faya (Post 2320459)
Okay, thanks!:) that sounds a good help. More thoughts are welcome!:)

How much are you looking to spend? What are you using it for? A 1911 is tough to conceal if you're looking for a carry piece. If you go with less than a 4" barrel, reliability becomes a concern. If I was going for a self defense pistol, I'd look at springfield or rock river. That should get you out the door for $700-1000. Run it by a local pistol smith for a trigger job and some polishing, and you've got a better pistol than a Kimber.

faya 05-17-2013 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2320650)
How much are you looking to spend? What are you using it for? A 1911 is tough to conceal if you're looking for a carry piece. If you go with less than a 4" barrel, reliability becomes a concern. If I was going for a self defense pistol, I'd look at springfield or rock river. That should get you out the door for $700-1000. Run it by a local pistol smith for a trigger job and some polishing, and you've got a better pistol than a Kimber.

I can go 1500 max. Just something to play around in the range. I would not really bring it around. I have no enemies. I am not looking for one either.:) i just want something that us reliable and you can be proud of.. Thanks Sir!


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Chuck33079 05-17-2013 06:24 PM

A Colt Gold Cup wouldn't be too bad either in that price range. Unless you spend $2k on one, they'll all need a pistol smith to polish some stuff and clean up the trigger.

faya 05-17-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2320677)
A Colt Gold Cup wouldn't be too bad either in that price range. Unless you spend $2k on one, they'll all need a pistol smith to polish some stuff and clean up the trigger.

$2k would be too much for me.:) colt gold cup is pretty sharp too. Overall, what manufacturer do you recommend when it comes to reliability?


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UNKNOWN_370 05-17-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by faya (Post 2320687)
$2k would be too much for me.:) colt gold cup is pretty sharp too. Overall, what manufacturer do you recommend when it comes to reliability?


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You need to do a looooot of reading on 1911's. Advice will be extremely subjective and Bias. But, what i can tell you. The best, most reliable 1911's are the ones that you order from world famous gunsmiths and wait for because they are being hand built.

Buying an expensive factory produced 1911 doesn't guarantee reliability.

Chuck33079 05-17-2013 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2320743)
You need to do a looooot of reading on 1911's. Advice will be extremely subjective and Bias. But, what i can tell you. The best, most reliable 1911's are the ones that you order from world famous gunsmiths and wait for because they are being hand built.

Buying an expensive factory produced 1911 doesn't guarantee reliability.

Every bit of this. My Les Baer bullseye gun is a work of art. Always feeds, always fires, and shoots a 1" group at 50 yds from a rest with hand loads. The price was on a level with the performance. For a budget 1911, I stand by a Springfield, RRA or colt. Whatever you choose, budget a couple hundred for a gunsmith to tune it up.

faya 05-17-2013 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2320743)
You need to do a looooot of reading on 1911's. Advice will be extremely subjective and Bias. But, what i can tell you. The best, most reliable 1911's are the ones that you order from world famous gunsmiths and wait for because they are being hand built.

Buying an expensive factory produced 1911 doesn't guarantee reliability.

I am on the research mode now.. :) thanks for the help! :tiphat:

Ackrite 05-18-2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2320031)
I've never known anyone who's had a good experience with a Kimber. I'd rather have a loaded Springfield for less money, or step up to something like a Les Baer or Dan Wesson.

I have a Kimber TLE/RL II and haven't had any issues with it. Not saying it's a great 1911, but I also haven't experienced any of the bad things that I've read about on the internet. The only thing I hate about it is that Kimber only comes with a 1 year warranty, whereas most or every other manufacturer has a lifetime warranty. That can be a deal breaker for some people.

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Originally Posted by faya (Post 2320673)
I can go 1500 max. Just something to play around in the range. I would not really bring it around. I have no enemies. I am not looking for one either.:) i just want something that us reliable and you can be proud of.. Thanks Sir!


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For that price range, I would go with a SA MC Operator or a TRP. If it is your first pistol I understand the allure of buying new, but don't hesitate to buy used or secondhand if the gun is in good condition and you come across a good deal. Guns aren't generally like cars where the first owner can beat it to sh!t then gave it a good washing before selling leaving the next owner with all the problems. It either works or it doesn't and as long as it has a good finish, then you're good to go. I wish I knew that when I started buying guns.

faya 05-18-2013 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ackrite (Post 2321059)
I have a Kimber TLE/RL II and haven't had any issues with it. Not saying it's a great 1911, but I also haven't experienced any of the bad things that I've read about on the internet. The only thing I hate about it is that Kimber only comes with a 1 year warranty, whereas most or every other manufacturer has a lifetime warranty. That can be a deal breaker for some people.



For that price range, I would go with a SA MC Operator or a TRP. If it is your first pistol I understand the allure of buying new, but don't hesitate to buy used or secondhand if the gun is in good condition and you come across a good deal. Guns aren't generally like cars where the first owner can beat it to sh!t then gave it a good washing before selling leaving the next owner with all the problems. It either works or it doesn't and as long as it has a good finish, then you're good to go. I wish I knew that when I started buying guns.

Thanks! Where do we usually see good used guns? Do we them online or at the gun shop as well? What does SA stand for? Is this a manufacturer? Thanks for the help. :)


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Ackrite 05-18-2013 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by faya (Post 2321094)
Thanks! Where do we usually see good used guns? Do we them online or at the gun shop as well? What does SA stand for? Is this a manufacturer? Thanks for the help. :)


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SA=Springfield Armory. Look around if there's a dedicated gun forum in your region that allows members to post for sale ads and you can also check out Armslist. It's like craigslist for guns.

faya 05-18-2013 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ackrite (Post 2321505)
SA=Springfield Armory. Look around if there's a dedicated gun forum in your region that allows members to post for sale ads and you can also check out Armslist. It's like craigslist for guns.

Thanks for the help sir! Is online buying okay?


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MacCool 05-18-2013 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by faya (Post 2321757)
Is online buying okay?

This is an area of obfuscation commonly used by gun control alarmists. It's not like buying something from Amazon. If the seller ships it to you then it has to go to an FFL, in which case you have to fill out a 4473, show a PTC and maybe a NICS check (depending on state law). Alternatively, he can sell it to you face-to-face, but if he's smart he'll want to see your DL and PTC/PTP before selling it.

Joepro 05-18-2013 10:59 PM

got my code to build my custom Daniel defense ddm4...I actually have 2... ;) I have the core15 standard carbine, thinking mid length system with 18" barrel?

faya 05-18-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2321883)
This is an area of obfuscation commonly used by gun control alarmists. It's not like buying something from Amazon. If the seller ships it to you then it has to go to an FFL, in which case you have to fill out a 4473, show a PTC and maybe a NICS check (depending on state law). Alternatively, he can sell it to you face-to-face, but if he's smart he'll want to see your DL and PTC/PTP before selling it.

Thanks for the clarification. Is it safe to say that all guns that we buy online or even gun shops are authentic? thanks!

SouthArk370Z 05-18-2013 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by faya (Post 2322107)
Thanks for the clarification. Is it safe to say that all guns that we buy online or even gun shops are authentic? thanks!

Caveat emptor. Use the same precautions you would for any purchase.

And remember that the person/shop with the FFL on your end is just accepting the shipment and is not responsible for any problems you might encounter.

faya 05-19-2013 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SouthArk370Z (Post 2322111)
Caveat emptor. Use the same precautions you would for any purchase.

And remember that the person/shop with the FFL on your end is just accepting the shipment and is not responsible for any problems you might encounter.

Roger that sir! Thanks!


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MacCool 05-19-2013 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by faya (Post 2322107)
Thanks for the clarification. Is it safe to say that all guns that we buy online or even gun shops are authentic? thanks!

If we're talking about a new-in-box gun, probably. If we're talking a used gun, that's true of the frame only, with its rollmark and serial number. More importantly, you have to beware of accessories or added parts. It's not impossible to get some really crappy aftermarket parts as add-ons or as "enhancememts", and this could be especially problematic on 1911's, probably the most "customized" firearm on the market. And it's not just parts quality you have to worry about, but also the possibility that it's been "worked on" by someone with less-than-stellar gunsmithing skills. I'm certainly not a 1911 fan, but if I were to buy one, I would be very leery of buying it from someone I didn't know to be honest and reliable.

frost 05-19-2013 11:57 AM

Shots fired at Cannes film festival, actors flee for cover - World News

{If only France had a strict gun control policy}

6MT 05-19-2013 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by frost (Post 2322567)
Shots fired at Cannes film festival, actors flee for cover - World News

{If only France had a strict gun control policy}

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faya 05-19-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MacCool (Post 2322252)
If we're talking about a new-in-box gun, probably. If we're talking a used gun, that's true of the frame only, with its rollmark and serial number. More importantly, you have to beware of accessories or added parts. It's not impossible to get some really crappy aftermarket parts as add-ons or as "enhancememts", and this could be especially problematic on 1911's, probably the most "customized" firearm on the market. And it's not just parts quality you have to worry about, but also the possibility that it's been "worked on" by someone with less-than-stellar gunsmithing skills. I'm certainly not a 1911 fan, but if I were to buy one, I would be very leery of buying it from someone I didn't know to be honest and reliable.

Thanks Sir! Anyone here who is into competitive shooting?


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Chuck33079 05-19-2013 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by faya (Post 2322652)
Thanks Sir! Anyone here who is into competitive shooting?

Some bullseye shooting here.

faya 05-19-2013 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2322755)
Some bullseye shooting here.

You are using Les Baer? Have you modified it?


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Chuck33079 05-19-2013 06:09 PM

I use the Les Baer for the .45 portion of the competition. He guaranteed a 1" group at 50 yds out of the box, and it fed wad cutters no problem. Haven't modified it at all except for a custom set of Randall Fung grips. You don't need to modify with a lot of the top shelf manufacturers. For the center fire portion I've got a 9mm Sig P226 X-five. Bone stock and absolutely perfect. My .22lr is a 7" barrel S&W 41 with Fung grips. Ultra dots for optics on the 22 and 45, a trijicon reflex sight on the Sig.

faya 05-19-2013 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2322911)
I use the Les Baer for the .45 portion of the competition. He guaranteed a 1" group at 50 yds out of the box, and it fed wad cutters no problem. Haven't modified it at all except for a custom set of Randall Fung grips. You don't need to modify with a lot of the top shelf manufacturers. For the center fire portion I've got a 9mm Sig P226 X-five. Bone stock and absolutely perfect. My .22lr is a 7" barrel S&W 41 with Fung grips. Ultra dots for optics on the 22 and 45, a trijicon reflex sight on the Sig.

Wow!! Sounds like you've been doing it for a long time now.. Cool!


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Chuck33079 05-19-2013 11:02 PM

About five years, but don't confuse being well equipped with being any good. Bullseye is really hard.

UNKNOWN_370 05-29-2013 11:36 AM

Anyone know of a smith that can change my shytty 92 front sights without external degradation of the front fixed sight? I would really like tritium in the front. The front sight is Beretta's main flaw.

Chuck33079 05-29-2013 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370 (Post 2337795)
Anyone know of a smith that can change my shytty 92 front sights without external degradation of the front fixed sight? I would really like tritium in the front. The front sight is Beretta's main flaw.

Is it pinned in, or is it in a dovetail?

UNKNOWN_370 05-30-2013 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck33079 (Post 2337804)
Is it pinned in, or is it in a dovetail?

Its dovetail, built into the frame :crying:

Chuck33079 05-30-2013 08:53 AM

It's easier to get it out undamaged in a dovetail than if it's pinned in. There's usually a decent enough smith at your local range that has a sight pusher. The issue becomes the angle of the dovetail. Make sure whatever sights you buy have the same angle or you'll have to recut the dovetail. I've seen a few night sights that actually come with the pusher. Can't remember the brand- maybe AmeriGlo?

tvfreakazoid 05-30-2013 11:27 PM

Any recommendations for a nice double action revolver? I'm looking into a 357 mag. I like the fact that i can shoot 357mag and 38spec.
I will mainly use it for a range toy and hd as well.
On another forum people were recommending me the ruger gp100 or the s&w686.

Chuck33079 05-30-2013 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 2340851)
On another forum people were recommending me the ruger gp100 or the s&w686.

Can't go wrong either way. If you've got the coin, Dan Wesson makes some awesome wheel guns. If money's tight, Taurus revolvers are actually pretty good, unlike their autos.

UNKNOWN_370 06-03-2013 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 2340851)
Any recommendations for a nice double action revolver? I'm looking into a 357 mag. I like the fact that i can shoot 357mag and 38spec.
I will mainly use it for a range toy and hd as well.
On another forum people were recommending me the ruger gp100 or the s&w686.


The 686 would get my vote, but both are awesome revolvers. You cant go wrong either way.

BlackZeda 06-07-2013 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tvfreakazoid (Post 2340851)
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On another forum people were recommending me the ruger gp100 or the s&w686.

Both are excellent, but I would go for the S&W. I own a Ruger GP100 and have been very happy with it but the S&W has a trigger pull that is a smidge smoother. The Ruger is a great looking pistol though.

UNKNOWN_370 06-17-2013 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackZeda (Post 2353055)
Both are excellent, but I would go for the S&W. I own a Ruger GP100 and have been very happy with it but the S&W has a trigger pull that is a smidge smoother. The Ruger is a great looking pistol though.

:iagree:

UNKNOWN_370 07-11-2013 01:13 AM

Some rangetime behind the XD.40
 
My bro-in-law copped and XD.40 subcompact. Got 5 mags of rangetime out of it and I was extremely impressed. I know there are a lot of Glock worshippers out there that wont swear by anything less. But the springfield pistol seemed to be a little more thought out.

First thing that struck me. The grip. There are two grips in this world to me that set the standard for extreme ergonomics and ultra-fast target acquisition. IMHO opinion, these guns are the CZ-75 and the 1911.

The springfield contour reminds me strongly of the 1911. It fits in the hand like a glove, I have large hands and found the XD to be perfectly thick. The short mag didn't appeal to my hand for optimum grip but grip still felt sure. the extended 10 shot mag was optimum. In my hands, with the extender, the grip fit in my hand like a glove. It was pure perfection. The 1911 style backstrap safety in addition to the glock style trigger safety was an excellent touch. Plus one for Springfield.

I prefer steel guns over polymer because striker fired triggers basically suck. My fingers are long and the length of pull is not only too short and strange feeling for my long fingers, but often cumbersome for rapid fire. Most strikers need good range time to get comfortable with. For me, the sloppy break of the trigger is another minus...
For a short time i owned a taurus 24/7 SA/DA pistol hoping that the trigger would break better than glock... It was 10x worse. :mad: Sold it fast. the springfield, you can feel, springfield took the time to make a clean break, fast, shooting striker trigger from the first shot to the last.

Letting off downrange.

Surprised the short barrel didn't kick hard and the 40 was very managable. I would guess it's springfields beautifully sculpted heavy slide and polymers natural ability to absorb and disperse shock probably contributed to the managability.

I wasn't expecting too much out of a 3" barrel from 165gr 40 cal from 25 yards. but all 10 rounds made in a steel plate, the average size of the broad side of a playstation 3. Those were one shot per second shots.

Mag 2. Let off in two shot bursts, half second apart. same distance. Still hit them all in.

Mag 3 10 round rapid fire mag dump. 8 in the plate missed the last two rounds.

The last two mags i shot off doing draw and shoots firing from cover. The springfield proved accurate no matter the angle.

The glock has some advantages.
It can be anywhere from 3 to 9 oz lighter. Depending on gun and cal. It has a larger capacity mag. Parts are everywhere. And the biggie is that it's a proven reliable design for nearly 30 years now.

In spite of this, it seems the springfield XD series addresses, everything that was or is wrong with the glock. If the XD can shed more weight while retaining the current high quality and increase the amount of quality accessories and higher capacity mags? I think this would be a better alternative to glock under those circumstances. It's the better gun to shoot right from the start. The flipside to that is, with some effort in getting rangetime with a glock and becoming proficient with one. You have more tactical advantages with Glock. so Glock isn't going anywhere just yet.

But for a guy that hates striker fire polymers in general. The Springfield XD40, changed my opinion. I'm a fan of this gun.

My dream springfield is the EMP. Hopefully, one day, i will get some range time behind it.:tup:

SR71 07-11-2013 04:21 PM

Some of my collection. I just picked up a Mosin Nagat 91/30 last week, Im in the process of sweating out the stock and rid it of Cosmoline.

Beretta 92fs Vertec full stainless 9mm

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...o/46e7f057.jpg

DPMS AR15 in 5.56 with a Chiappa .22lr dedicated upper

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...o/8d817c67.jpg

With the Redfield Revolution scope.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...o/99c2dd10.jpg

Huldra (Adams Arms) piston 5.56 upper

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...ps8e88aee7.jpg

Cant have to many of these.
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