Anyone here into firearms?

Ghostvette · 12-06-2021, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by VABAM

A lot of more info has come out after I made that post. Parents definitely need to be held responsible. I bet they were "not my son" parents, never believing the red flags people were pointing out. This tragedy could have been prevented. So many missed opportunities by the parents and school to catch him before it happened. I'm still scratching my head on why the school didn't search his bag after seeing that note. A note like that, with his history, in the late 90s, even before Columbine, would have gotten his stuff searched at my high school. People being too worried about hurting peoples feelings cause a lot more issues than it solves.

I do feel that the parents need to be held responsible in some way but I'm not sure involuntary manslaughter charges are appropriate. In another discussion I was in some one brought up what if the shooter had used a knife or a car? Some people were saying the only reason that the parents were charged because a gun was used. Some lawyers are saying the parents have been over charged and this might cause them to not be convicted. Now the parents running doesn't help their case and that was very stupid of them. Kind of points to them not making wise decisions.

Just a thought, my dad bought me a pistol while I was in high school. I never had direct control over it and my dad was careful to keep all the guns locked up. Parents buying pistols for their underage kids is not a new thing and not irresponsible. Ignoring the signs that your kid might have issues and buying him a gun anyway, then not securing it is irresponsible.

I got a rifle at 16, but I'd been through hunter safety and other training.

I'm not sure how the prosecutor came up with 'involuntary manslaughter' for the parents, in some respects, it smacks of over-reach. However, the parents 'fleeing' and being arrested/located in the basement of a commercial building says 'I'm a moron and can't face up to my chit'. It's not quite 'interstate flight to avoid prosecution', but it is probably considered 'flight to avoid prosecution'. The 4473 asks if the person buying the firearm is the 'final owner', so a case could be made that it was a 'strawman' purchase. That one is above my paygrade.

Hotrodz · 12-03-2021, 11:51 AM

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Rusty · 12-03-2021, 12:00 PM

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Gotta love Chris!

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For Christmas. We give each other a list with the items we want with links. Takes the guess work and disappointment out of it. The list may have 10 items on it. And I say pick 4 or 5 things off of it to get for me. Everyone is happy now.

Hotrodz · 12-03-2021, 12:03 PM

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For Christmas. We give each other a list with the items we want with links. Takes the guess work and disappointment out of it. The list may have 10 items on it. And I say pick 4 or 5 things off of it to get for me. Everyone is happy now.

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Rusty · 12-03-2021, 12:07 PM

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That is perfect!

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I do this with my daughter too. She does this with her BF now.

Hotrodz · 12-03-2021, 12:14 PM

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I do this with my daughter too. She does this with her BF now.

Like you said, it takes the guess work and disappointment out of the equation.

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Rusty · 12-03-2021, 12:22 PM

I'm working on my Rem 700 with a Bell & Carson carbon stocked 7mm Rem Mag. It decided to start doing some vertical stringing. So I free floated the barrel. Now I'm going to pillar bed the action. I'm going to use The Score High pillar bedding kit. It's my Christmas present from my daughter.

Score High Gunsmithing

I'm buying the jigs to drill the stock for the pillars myself since they're a bit pricy. I'll see how this turns out. Then I'll do my 243 BDL.

VABAM · 12-03-2021, 05:44 PM

Just found out that at least the Mom was aware of the shooter’s problems. She texted the shooter “Don’t do it” when the news of the shooting started to break.

If they knew he had issues then they should be charged.

Edit: Also the dad went immediately home, looking for the pistol before they even know it was their son.

Rusty · 12-03-2021, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by VABAM

Just found out that at least the Mom was aware of the shooter’s problems. She texted the shooter “Don’t do it” when the news of the shooting started to break.

If they knew he had issues then they should be charged.

Edit: Also the dad went immediately home, looking for the pistol before they even know it was their son.

They knew he had issues. I bet they bought the gun as a pacifier. Wrong type of pacifier. Should have stuck a baby pacifier in his mouth or his mother's tit, and not put a gun in his hand.

redondoaveb · 12-03-2021, 07:40 PM

Now you have Alec Baldwin saying that he didn't pull the trigger on the gun that killed that director. He said that he pulled the hammer back and when he let it go, it snapped back and fired. He had to have his finger on the trigger for that to happen.

Rusty · 12-03-2021, 07:47 PM

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Now you have Alec Baldwin saying that he didn't pull the trigger on the gun that killed that director. He said that he pulled the hammer back and when he let it go, it snapped back and fired. He had to have his finger on the trigger for that to happen.

He didn't do himself any good with that interview. If he knew any better. Why was he pointing the gun at her at all?

what gets me. He said that production should hire a cop to check the guns. He IS production. He's the ex producer. And I know cops that know very little about guns.

redondoaveb · 12-03-2021, 07:56 PM

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He didn't do himself any good with that interview. If he knew any better. Why was he pointing the gun at her at all?

what gets me. He said that production should hire a cop to check the guns. He IS production. He's the ex producer. And I know cops that know very little about guns.

Yep, he's digging himself a hole. Said he didn't feel any guilt either because it wasnt his responsibility. What an azzhole

VABAM · 12-03-2021, 08:41 PM

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Now you have Alec Baldwin saying that he didn't pull the trigger on the gun that killed that director. He said that he pulled the hammer back and when he let it go, it snapped back and fired. He had to have his finger on the trigger for that to happen.

Now with a period correct Colt SAA revolver that has the firing pin on the hammer instead of a frame firing pin with transfer bar, it is possible to set off a round by letting go on a partially pulled back hammer. Highly unlikely though. There is a reason for the phrase “Going off half cocked”. From the half cocked there usually isn’t enough force to set off the round. If the sear did fail, on a period correct SAA, the round would go off. Do I believe AB? **** no.

VABAM · 12-06-2021, 04:58 PM

For the record, If any of you saw my now deleted post, the video I was referencing was from 2020. YouTube for some reason was recommending it like it was new.

My bad guys.

Rusty · 12-06-2021, 05:05 PM

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For the record, If any of you saw my now deleted post, the video I was referencing was from 2020. YouTube for some reason was recommending it like it was new.

My bad guys.

I seen it and replied to it. Then it was gone. I went WTF! Here was my reply.

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VABAM A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: No Where VA Posts: 4,003 Drives: with VDC off. Rep Power: 197	Just found out that at least the Mom was aware of the shooter’s problems. She texted the shooter “Don’t do it” when the news of the shooting started to break. If they knew he had issues then they should be charged. Edit: Also the dad went immediately home, looking for the pistol before they even know it was their son. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring W/SP Last edited by VABAM; 12-03-2021 at 05:46 PM.

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redondoaveb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: So. Commiefornia Posts: 6,381 Drives: 2014 Nismo Gunmetal Rep Power: 2684375	Now you have Alec Baldwin saying that he didn't pull the trigger on the gun that killed that director. He said that he pulled the hammer back and when he let it go, it snapped back and fired. He had to have his finger on the trigger for that to happen. __________________ Fast Intentions "Stage Seb" twin turbo #098- Specialty Z/Tial-Xonarotor/CJM/Ecutek/HKS/KW/SPL/Hotchkis/Rohana/Toyo 750whp/700ft.lbs

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VABAM A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2010 Location: No Where VA Posts: 4,003 Drives: with VDC off. Rep Power: 197	For the record, If any of you saw my now deleted post, the video I was referencing was from 2020. YouTube for some reason was recommending it like it was new. My bad guys. __________________ 2009 370Z Touring W/SP