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Originally Posted by ZMan8 if it's true, used vehicle resale value ^^^ Not necessarily, there are already black boxes on a lot of cars, but even today they are only

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Old 04-19-2012, 01:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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if it's true, used vehicle resale value ^^^
Not necessarily, there are already black boxes on a lot of cars, but even today they are only used by the car manufacturer/dealerships to get info.
To use it in court or other things, they have to go to the car manufacture and get them to access the data, most will not for legal reasons.
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Old 04-19-2012, 01:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Not necessarily, there are already black boxes on a lot of cars, but even today they are only used by the car manufacturer/dealerships to get info.
To use it in court or other things, they have to go to the car manufacture and get them to access the data, most will not for legal reasons.
hmm really, which cars already come with them?
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hmm really, which cars already come with them?
GT-R, some Porsches, I believe Ford or maybe GM said they have been putting them in but do not give access to the data to anyone ever.
So far the challenges have been with insurance claims, an insurance company wants the data to challenge someone in court so they can not pay out, but the car manufactures do not want to get involved since they have the access key. Unless this new Government bill requires them to hand over the key or make a universal key then requiring black boxes will do nothing to hurt us initially.
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GT-R, some Porsches, I believe Ford or maybe GM said they have been putting them in but do not give access to the data to anyone ever.
So far the challenges have been with insurance claims, an insurance company wants the data to challenge someone in court so they can not pay out, but the car manufactures do not want to get involved since they have the access key. Unless this new Government bill requires them to hand over the key or make a universal key then requiring black boxes will do nothing to hurt us initially.
my insurance wanted to monitor my driving habits for $10/month savings ....i told them
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Progressive?
Yeah that is the new "in" thing for insurance companies to help reduce your rates, but at the same time track you more. I would hate to see someone pull up my data....
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Progressive?
Yeah that is the new "in" thing for insurance companies to help reduce your rates, but at the same time track you more. I would hate to see someone pull up my data....
state farm.

1. I dont feel comfortable with someone tracking me
2. I don't want them seeing how I drive.
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Yeah that is the new "in" thing for insurance companies to help reduce your rates, but at the same time track you more. I would hate to see someone pull up my data....
Haha, yep same here. I would be uninsurable so fast my head would spin, canyon runs and hwy WOT pulls would do me in.
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