The New “What did you do with your Z today” (with off topic replies)

JNews86

We knew you werent a nutritionist as soon as you said you eat like 400 big macs a month lol

Rusty

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Rusty

Like that pedophile who ate Subway sandwiches to loss weight?

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eastwest2300

dude, is still in prison..

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vtec to vvel

That was during a dirty bulk stage. Had to get calories in and hit my macros somehow

I'm supposed to be going into my bulk stage in a month, but really hesitant on doing it. The cutting phase, esp. after a dirty bulk, was really rough this recent time around.

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FL 4Motion

Why not just do a clean bulking phase? Up your calories by around 200-300 per day over maintenance/what you’re doing now, add in some extra carbs (clean) and not have such a drastic cutting phase next time.

As we get older, losing that fat/gaining muscle gets exponentially harder.

danegrey

its a constant battle

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vtec to vvel

I keep logs of each cut/bulk phases and goes back about 10 years. Whether I cut from a clean or dirty bulk, the misery is almost the same. The most recent cut phase was a bit more difficult because my only source of carbs came from fruits/veggies and cut out anything processed, whereas before I would incorporate rice cakes/wheat bread.

I've noticed that a clean bulk takes me twice as long to get the gains I target, though there are pro's/con's to both types of bulking. For my particular goals, a clean bulk would have meant eating about 6 meals a day (and for a longer duration), whereas a dirty bulk meant less meals with more calories and hitting my macro's. I also saw a pattern of being able lift more weight and with more reps/sets on a dirty bulk than clean.

In regards to age and metabolism, there has been many new studies that a person's metabolism doesn't start to decline until the 60's. Perhaps it's different for each individual person, but looking back at my records, my calorie surplus/deficit for bulking/cutting have been consistent so far.

https://www.healthline.com/health-ne...than-you-think

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FL 4Motion

Fair enough, I’m coming at it from a long term health aspect as much as a bodybuilding/weightlifting one. Even with all the exercise and rotating into a clean eating phase periodically, consuming all those chemicals and bad fats and processed foods is still bad for long term health. Its also hard on the body to constantly cycle from one extreme to the other.

I agree about metabolism not having to decline with age, a proper diet and exercise can work Miracles. I was more referring to our hormonal profile. Testosterone peaks in your mid twenties (not withstanding the temporary boost during puberty), growth hormone peaks mid thru late 20s. Assuming someone stays healthy and injury free and continues to train, gains can be made/maintained thru mid to late 30s. But after that it’s a slow road downhill.

Now, to be fair, when I was young and dumb and full of cum, I wasn’t bodybuilding and powerlifting with longevity or health benefits in mind, I was just focusing on being the most muscular and strong version of myself I could be. Age and disability have a funny way of changing one’s perspective though.

FL 4Motion

On a different note, our TT RS will soon be gone (hopefully sooner rather than later).

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When I go to bed tonight I’ll hopefully catch some ZZZZ’s and wake up refreshed…

vtec to vvel

Unless you grow and eat your vegetables in your own backyard, everything is bad for you, even the "organic" sh!t. But I will agree on the cycle effects, as I don't think I've had it this bad before and coming off of a very dirty bulk. Aside from the health side, cutting off lots of items cold-turkey, esp. the weekly 10 Big Mac's, really took a toll, where any and every little thing pretty much would set me off, so I avoided people whenever possible during the cut phase this time around.

I'm trying to experiment with a hybrid cycle, where I still don't have anything processed and have natural carbs, but start to incorporate red meat/certain fats back into my diet.*

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FL 4Motion

Less bad is still better than really fvcking bad imo.

Yeah, I would’ve been impossible to be around in that same situation.

That’s kinda where me and the wife landed. We decided to get serious again about our healthy eating in march so lots of seasoned baked chicken (so much chicken lol), lots of fruits and veggies. Only whole wheat if we eat pasta occasionally. We pretty much completely cut out all bread. Baked potatoes are a go once a week with a dash of butter and garlic, gotta eat the skin as well for 5he nutrients. We do 2 cheat meals per week (2 dinners, no full cheat days). That is usually either pizza or steak. We only eat red meat about once a week.

Not the most hard core diet but it works and while strict, it’s not insane strict. In fact we feel so much better on it we actually feel poisoned after going out to eat or getting pizza once in a while so it’s like a delicious treat, but then your body’s like, nope, not again for a while.

We started in march of 5his year and in 5 months my total cholesterol dropped from 248 to 160, and i went from little pot belly to a hint of a six pack at rest and a half decent six pack flexed. No cardio bc I fvcking hate it and i hardly ever leave the house (health issues). Unfortunately im only able to train once every 7-10 days bc of injury/health problems. Still hav3 gained 9 lbs so far this year after 11 1/2 years off being bedridden 90% of that time, in and out of the er, getting throat and lung surgeries etc, and only eating once every 24-48 hrs. I got by my body lol. (Currently 230 lbs, hoping to hit 235 by next spring).

Seems like your moving into a similar type diet with your hybrid phase.

Even though the whole world is poisoned at 5his point, I still think it’s slightly helpful to try eat organic/non gmo. It’s not a miracle or anything, but it’s a bit better.

The biggest thing is staying away from processed and ultra processed foods, especially meats, ie deli meats, bacon, sausage, pepperoni (my cheat meal , all fast food, frozen ready to eat dinners etc. just trying to increase the amount of natural foods and decrease the amount of processed food is probably the biggest health improvement anyone can make. Sounds like we’re both doing that.

Congrats btw on your 17.7” cannons. You inspired me to hit it harder. I’m only at 16.5” measured cold, am, flexed. Got to add two mor inches to get back to my best #s, but at this point it might be a pipe dream. Goal is to get to 17.5” by next Halloween. We’ll see if my health holds up.

Rusty

Eating rice cakes is like eating air. There's nothing there.

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vtec to vvel

The unflavored/plain rice cakes dipped in apple cider vinegar would give me that boost I needed right before a workout, esp. on cardio days.

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