The New “What did you do with your Z today” (with off topic replies) XXXIX

FL 4Motion

As a human race as a whole we still think selfishly and in short term like any other animal. In order for our species to survive and improve into the future we collectively need to start seeing the bigger picture so to speak.

A deer without sufficient predators etc to keep it in balance will overpopulate an area and eat too much of the vegetation and create self inflicted famine and disease which then knocks the population back into equilibrium again. Or some wolves move into that area and kill off enough deer to accomplish the same thing.

Sustainable farming that doesn’t strip the land of its nutrients and cutting down on # of livestock and eating less meat, especially red meat; reducing our population by breeding less, dealing with our self inflicted global warming/climate change mess using science and common sense not panic or denial; etc

We all need to start thinking less selfishly short term and more long term. We still think and act like the less intelligent animals on this planet, our politics reflect that as well as how we live etc.

We’re the only intelligent and self aware enough animal to even have a conversation about this stuff or realize that it’s happening. That means we have the capacity to do something about it if we try hard enough.

Until we can think bigger than just our own short term self interest, we will continue to be a disease on this planet bc we operate like a parasite that can’t help itself from killing its host even if that means it inadvertently kills itself.

Rusty

Go preach to China. They are the worlds largest polluter. They pollute more then everyone else combined. Until they change. Nothing is going to happen. Only your standard of living will go down. And lay your hands off my cows. I love my red meat.

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FL 4Motion

Agree about China, but we lead by example, and then collectively countries can put pressure on them to improve.

One of the main reasons China is the world’s largest polluter besides too many Chinese people (see my statements above re breeding) is bc they are basically the world’s factory. Our country had much worse pollution in the 50s thru 70s as well and ironically as we offshored more and more manufacturing industry over there, we reduced our pollution as a by product.

I never said I wanted to ban red meat but your reaction to my statement is exactly the problem we are facing. Point fingers at everyone else and use them as an excuse not to do anything and not take responsibility and then refuse to even consider small changes. I never said no red meat, I said eat less of it is better for your personal health as well as our planet’s health.

Rusty

Why should I slice my own throat so that China can rule over me. They are buying influence in this country and all other countries. Hollywood won't even make a movie that shows China in a bad light. Why, because of Chinese money.

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Rusty

John Cena just made an apology to China for him saying that Taiwan was a country. Why? Because of the new movie Fast & Furious 9. They want to show it in China.

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FL 4Motion

But you’re not being asked to slice your own throat. Bringing blue collar jobs back here as much as possible from China but building cleaner running manufacturing facilities would help us, and hurt China actually. And reduce their influence and power over our economy.

All of us being a little bit better and conscientious about how we live will have big changes collectively. I’m not suggesting radical measures for any one person. I’ll bring up the red meat thing again since we’ve been debating that one. Imagine just eating red meat only once or twice a week, assuming you’re eating it more frequently than that, hats not a big change personally, but if millions do something like that, it has a huge ripple effect.

Another example would be thermostat settings. In the summer if more folks set their thermostat at 76 deg vs say 68-72 deg, not only would you save $$, we’d also burn less fossil fuel. Win win.

As far as China buying influence in our country and others. I agree with you I don’t like it. It’s why we need to invest in foreign countries not cut back on foreign investment by our state department. Interestingly, a lot of countries that took that Chinese money are now realizing that it came with strings attatched and they’re not to happy about it.

Re Hollywood, I agree with you again but I’m also a capitalist and companies are gonna go where the $$ is and they will suck up to the biggest consumer base. That used to be us, now it’s them.

Ghostvette

I've been bumping the thermostat to temperature ranges I can live with. 74 in summer, 71 in winter. I bought a better system so it doesn't cycle continously. The challenge with adjusting temps is that while we use less energy, the 'energy' companies don't make as much money and they raise the energy rates, which causes other folks to change the temps so their bill isn't so high, which means the energy company doesn't make as much money & the cycle repeats.

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-ZS-Carpenter

I'm looking at smart thermostats. Not sure which one I want to go with yet.

And light switches. I need to do some research on the smart home stuff and bring the house into the 20s

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Rusty

74 summer and 71 winter. I have one of those smart thermostats. It actually made my gas and electric bills go up because of the cycling. Trying to get the house back to temperature. The units would run for a long time.

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